Comments on short shift kits?

birgppa · 05-06-2011, 05:29 AM

So I drove the 911 GTS yesterday, I really loved the feel in the manual gearbox. The throws where short and felt very rigid and a bit metallic. It was perfect. So I was thinking perhaps a short shift kit would make things better in the M. I had a look on IND's website, they sell Rogue Engineering and AA's kit. Any comments on theese? Are there any other options?

Cal@Sonic MS · 05-06-2011, 12:34 PM

I highly recommend RE's SSK...it retains OEM feel in shift throws (no notchiness) and it's the most significantly R&D'ed kit available IMO.

birgppa · 05-06-2011, 01:41 PM

Can a peasant like me install this? Is there a DIY? Thanks!

Cal@Sonic MS · 05-06-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by birgppa

Can a peasant like me install this? Is there a DIY? Thanks!

Yes you can...see here for more info including link to DIY PDF.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=503365

prodigymb · 05-06-2011, 02:08 PM

I love the AA kit. Possibly the smoothest/best feeling shifter I have ever felt....on any car. Absolutely no notchiness

Grail05 · 05-06-2011, 02:50 PM

not sure about the short shift. but most of the people that i know installed it sold it.

plus i believe you have to remove something big to install this (not sure but hope someone can correct me)

anyways so to the OP i decided to install the performance shift knob and its made the shifting a night and day.

a burrito · 05-06-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal@Sonic MS

I highly recommend RE's SSK...it retains OEM feel in shift throws (no notchiness) and it's the most significantly R&D'ed kit available IMO.

Personally I thought it was more notchier.

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Originally Posted by birgppa

Can a peasant like me install this? Is there a DIY? Thanks!

I believe it is definitely possible but without a lift it will be very hard work. You have to drop the mid pipes to get to the shifter assembly. Reason is is that the shifter assembly drops out from the bottom.

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Originally Posted by prodigymb

I love the AA kit. Possibly the smoothest/best feeling shifter I have ever felt....on any car. Absolutely no notchiness

Is this the new AA or the old AA.?

GreasyGinzo · 05-06-2011, 03:57 PM

Bump for more info...I am curious about this as well. Doesn't seem to be much in the archives when searching. I guess this isn't a popular upgrade.

mindless.spades · 05-06-2011, 04:23 PM

Yes, you need to drop the mid pipes in order to install a short shifter.

I can't speak on AA short shifters but I've had the Rogue Engineering short shifter for about 5,000 miles. Here was my initial impressions taken from by other post: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=456187

The RE SSK sits noticeably taller compared to stock. It almost seemed too tall at first and still is a tad bit awkward from what I'm used to in a visual sense.

Each gate feels extremely well delineated, there is practically no play once the shifter is in gear.

Odd gears feels very short. That is, when shifting to gears 1, 3, and 5 you will immediately notice the shortened throw.

Even gears do feel shorter than stock but not as drastically as the odd gears.

The mechanical "whirling noise" or "spinning noise" is indeed present.

The noise is more noticeable at higher RPMs and present from 1st -> 2nd -> 3rd (sometimes). Personally I don't find it annoying or very loud.

1st and 2nd gear is still a tad bit notchy but less so because of the shorter throws.

The taller shifter combined with the shorter throws makes shifting much more comfortable and natural.

IMHO the Porsche's shifters are still much smoother and shorter. Both the 997 S and Cayman S had better shifter experience than the E92. it makes you WANT to shift.

You really need to try driving a car equipped with either SSK to see if you find it worth the money. I got a great deal on the RE SSK so it was very worth it for me.

Hope this helps.

J08M3 · 05-06-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean05

not sure about the short shift. but most of the people that i know installed it sold it.

Sold Mine.

tom @ eas · 05-06-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by birgppa

Can a peasant like me install this? Is there a DIY? Thanks!

Been a Rogue SSK owner since day one, we are a stocking distributor for all Rogue products.

Here's a comparison of stock vs Rogue:

Also, here's an overview of the install process: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271196

Hope this helps!

GreasyGinzo · 05-06-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mindless.spades

The RE SSK sits noticeably taller compared to stock. It almost seemed too tall at first and still is a tad bit awkward from what I'm used to in a visual sense.

How much taller is the RE? Does it feel like your driving a truck?

2000gsr · 05-06-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by J08M3

Sold Mine.

Agreed, not worth it. I would sell mine too if I didn't have to pay to re-install the stock piece.

mindless.spades · 05-07-2011, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GreasyGinzo

How much taller is the RE? Does it feel like your driving a truck?

It's about level with the armrest where the Ipod dock is:

GreasyGinzo · 05-07-2011, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by J08M3

Sold Mine.

Why did you sell it?

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Originally Posted by 2000gsr

Agreed, not worth it. I would sell mine too if I didn't have to pay to re-install the stock piece.

How come you want to sell it?

BayerischeMotorenWerke · 05-09-2011, 04:29 PM

The spinning noise is unbearable with the Rogue. I sold mine as well. Plus the improvement in shifting is not worth enduring the noise.

J08M3 · 05-09-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BayerischeMotorenWerke

The spinning noise is unbearable with the Rogue. I sold mine as well. Plus the improvement in shifting is not worth enduring the noise.

noise was minimal in my opinion, didn't bother me at all. it was fine, just wouldn't bother doing it again. one of those completely unnecessary mods in my opinion.

GT3fan · 10-22-2017, 10:23 PM

Considering a SSK for my e90m. I've tried several aftermarket kits on my e39 m5 as well an OEM e60 545i shifter, which was a nice compromise.

Is there a similar OEM upgrade for the e90 using a factory shifter from another model?

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Cal@Sonic MS 430 Rep 4,650 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: earth iTrader: (2)	I highly recommend RE's SSK...it retains OEM feel in shift throws (no notchiness) and it's the most significantly R&D'ed kit available IMO.
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birgppa Private First Class 18 Rep 121 Posts Drives: M3 E92 Silverstone II Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden iTrader: (0)	Can a peasant like me install this? Is there a DIY? Thanks!
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prodigymb Captain 208 Rep 620 Posts Drives: V10+ R8, 997TT, Plaid, G550 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mexico iTrader: (2)	I love the AA kit. Possibly the smoothest/best feeling shifter I have ever felt....on any car. Absolutely no notchiness
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Grail05 Putcha ang ganda... 281 Rep 5,441 Posts Drives: 17 F82 M4 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Los Angeles, Brea CA. iTrader: (10)	not sure about the short shift. but most of the people that i know installed it sold it. plus i believe you have to remove something big to install this (not sure but hope someone can correct me) anyways so to the OP i decided to install the performance shift knob and its made the shifting a night and day. __________________
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GreasyGinzo Captain 41 Rep 635 Posts Drives: '08 E92 AW 6MT M3(Totaled) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North Jersey iTrader: (1)	Bump for more info...I am curious about this as well. Doesn't seem to be much in the archives when searching. I guess this isn't a popular upgrade. __________________
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mindless.spades Private 13 Rep 84 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Yes, you need to drop the mid pipes in order to install a short shifter. I can't speak on AA short shifters but I've had the Rogue Engineering short shifter for about 5,000 miles. Here was my initial impressions taken from by other post: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=456187 The RE SSK sits noticeably taller compared to stock. It almost seemed too tall at first and still is a tad bit awkward from what I'm used to in a visual sense. Each gate feels extremely well delineated, there is practically no play once the shifter is in gear. Odd gears feels very short. That is, when shifting to gears 1, 3, and 5 you will immediately notice the shortened throw. Even gears do feel shorter than stock but not as drastically as the odd gears. The mechanical "whirling noise" or "spinning noise" is indeed present. The noise is more noticeable at higher RPMs and present from 1st -> 2nd -> 3rd (sometimes). Personally I don't find it annoying or very loud. 1st and 2nd gear is still a tad bit notchy but less so because of the shorter throws. The taller shifter combined with the shorter throws makes shifting much more comfortable and natural. IMHO the Porsche's shifters are still much smoother and shorter. Both the 997 S and Cayman S had better shifter experience than the E92. it makes you WANT to shift. You really need to try driving a car equipped with either SSK to see if you find it worth the money. I got a great deal on the RE SSK so it was very worth it for me. Hope this helps.
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BayerischeMotorenWerke Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 259 Posts Drives: slowly and carefully Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Motel 6 iTrader: (0)	The spinning noise is unbearable with the Rogue. I sold mine as well. Plus the improvement in shifting is not worth enduring the noise.
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GT3fan First Lieutenant 239 Rep 356 Posts Drives: e90m Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: North Bay CA iTrader: (0)	Considering a SSK for my e90m. I've tried several aftermarket kits on my e39 m5 as well an OEM e60 545i shifter, which was a nice compromise. Is there a similar OEM upgrade for the e90 using a factory shifter from another model?
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