Is the New Ford Mustang Better Than A BMW M3?

ArabianSensation · 04-16-2010, 05:45 PM

From Jalopnik-
http://jalopnik.com/5518750/is-the-n...-than-a-bmw-m3

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Odd question to ask, right? But judging by the numbers, yes. Is that all there is to it?

In reality? Probably not, but then, "better" is relative. It's here that we'd caution you to remember the traditional line about apples, oranges, and comparisons. Both the 2011 Ford Mustang GT and the current BMW M3 offer staggering performance, V-8 power, and rear-wheel drive. One is a pedigreed European sport sedan, the other a charmingly raw piece of traditional American muscle. As to which one we like better, well, that depends on the day, our mood, the road, and how much diner food/schnitzel we had that morning. Different cars, different purposes, both awesome for entirely different reasons.

Still, aren't those numbers nuts? Progress rules.

1MOREMOD · 04-16-2010, 05:49 PM

i dont think those lateral g's numbers are correct for either car.

ChineseGuy · 04-16-2010, 05:56 PM

I hope this will lead to less people driving M3 and more people driving the mustang

I need to feel more special when I'm driving the car around.

1MOREMOD · 04-16-2010, 05:58 PM

i already feel like a baller in it!

Crazy Bimmer · 04-16-2010, 05:59 PM

Mustang is getting amazing reviews and im glad Ford has made such an great car. Bravo to them.

I just dont see many people cross shopping the two. I know I sure wouldnt.

ArabianSensation · 04-16-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesal@Project 808

Mustang is getting amazing reviews and im glad Ford has made such an great car. Bravo to them.

I just dont see many people cross shopping the two. I know I sure wouldnt.

I know, totally different cars. The numbers might be close on paper but in a real road race (not drag) I think we all know who the winner would be...

M3V8Driver · 04-16-2010, 06:38 PM

I must confess, I am not a hater of Mustangs, or Ford in general. While the above numbers may be skewed in favor of the Mustang, we can't deny they're close. That aside, I still feel the M3 is a better value. You get better quality engineering and materials, plus luxury with advanced technology. If the Mustang came with IRS, LSD, better quality materials/fit/finish, and luxury, I'm sure some M3 owners might be persuaded to go that direction - even if the Mustang cost a few more G's then, it would still represent a better value.

Look at it this way, what would you rather drive coast-to-coast? The M3 hands down. Also, let's not forget BMW's 4-year/50K miles free maintenance. I think Ford has a winner, but not quite an M3 alternative, all things considered.

Mnut · 04-16-2010, 07:20 PM

I had a 06 GT which uses the same dashboard as the new 2011 and I had a dash creeking noise that drove me nuts. I had a blast driving it but you cant compare the 2 cars. They might have the same performance numbers but the M3 is just a 10 times more better designed. I almost ordered a 2011 stang and decided on a preowned 335i .
The Mustang has its good points but it will never be what a M3 is.

bobbyd1961 · 04-16-2010, 08:10 PM

wow the mustang sounds great. and NO its nothing like the M3. but id sure like to testdrive

Mr. Wata · 04-16-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArabianSensation

but in a real road race (not drag) I think we all know who the winner would be...

The better driver.

Numbers are nice, but it comes down to how well the driver can drive. I hope all of you that are claiming victory for the M3 on a road course, have enough track experience to extract a high percentage of the M3's ability.

Bench racing is useless. I applaud Ford for really stepping up their game with the 2011 Mustang.

ARMAN · 04-16-2010, 09:41 PM

What about the GT500 vs M3

GT500 stats:
5.4L supercharged
550 hp
510 lb/ft.

alpineweissM3 · 04-16-2010, 09:53 PM

I don't know of a better sounding stock exhaust than the mustang gt. Exotics excluded of course. V8 'stangers are a ton of fun to drive, but no comparison to the total package our beloved M3's offer. So, to the original poster, please go get a GT. The less M3's on the road the better....as far as I'm concerned.

saeedg48 · 04-16-2010, 10:03 PM

Those numbers are off..

Crazy Bimmer · 04-16-2010, 10:41 PM

POLL

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/16/2...w-m3-tie-game/

Gearhead999s · 04-16-2010, 11:23 PM

To drive as an everyday car,the M3 is the winner but for best bang for the $ the Stang is an absolute steal!

Krozi · 04-17-2010, 07:44 AM

Yea no.

dhoggm3 · 04-17-2010, 09:06 AM

'Stang's a great value and if you trail brake it enough it will actually turn and be fun. M3's the better driver, period.

M3Alpine · 04-17-2010, 10:52 AM

i wouldnt consider it a better car by any means but yes its a great performer for the price

neeeeenja · 04-17-2010, 12:25 PM

you guys see what they're saying about the new 2011 gt?
http://jalopnik.com/5518750/is-the-n...-than-a-bmw-m3
any comments?

duk · 04-17-2010, 12:26 PM

lol

Chill72 · 04-17-2010, 12:38 PM

those numbers are pretty even...the Mustang looks pretty good too but then you sit inside and you realize why it costs what it does. Interior design and overall fit and finish are pretty important to me.

FSHNGRY · 04-17-2010, 12:43 PM

hahaha silly ford, stangs are for kids!

04-16-2010, 05:49 PM	#2
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ChineseGuy QuickShifter 137 Rep 1,500 Posts Drives: Black E90 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North Pole iTrader: (2)	I hope this will lead to less people driving M3 and more people driving the mustang I need to feel more special when I'm driving the car around.
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1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	i already feel like a baller in it! __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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Crazy Bimmer The Jesal 391 Rep 5,859 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chicago IL iTrader: (20) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	Mustang is getting amazing reviews and im glad Ford has made such an great car. Bravo to them. I just dont see many people cross shopping the two. I know I sure wouldnt. __________________ 2009 E90 M3 - SOLD
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04-16-2010, 06:38 PM	#7
M3V8Driver Captain 73 Rep 725 Posts Drives: E92 M3 - DCT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA iTrader: (0)	I must confess, I am not a hater of Mustangs, or Ford in general. While the above numbers may be skewed in favor of the Mustang, we can't deny they're close. That aside, I still feel the M3 is a better value. You get better quality engineering and materials, plus luxury with advanced technology. If the Mustang came with IRS, LSD, better quality materials/fit/finish, and luxury, I'm sure some M3 owners might be persuaded to go that direction - even if the Mustang cost a few more G's then, it would still represent a better value. Look at it this way, what would you rather drive coast-to-coast? The M3 hands down. Also, let's not forget BMW's 4-year/50K miles free maintenance. I think Ford has a winner, but not quite an M3 alternative, all things considered. __________________ Mmmm... M&Ms, Dale
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Mnut Germanized 9 Rep 130 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Port St Lucie,FL iTrader: (3)	I had a 06 GT which uses the same dashboard as the new 2011 and I had a dash creeking noise that drove me nuts. I had a blast driving it but you cant compare the 2 cars. They might have the same performance numbers but the M3 is just a 10 times more better designed. I almost ordered a 2011 stang and decided on a preowned 335i . The Mustang has its good points but it will never be what a M3 is. __________________ E90 335i blk/blk sport/step JB3 2.0 pnp BMS dci Ultimate Racing DP's Intercooler???
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bobbyd1961 Banned 43 Rep 2,406 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 sedan LeMans Blue Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: new jersey iTrader: (0)	wow the mustang sounds great. and NO its nothing like the M3. but id sure like to testdrive
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ARMAN Banned 28 Rep 76 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	What about the GT500 vs M3 GT500 stats: 5.4L supercharged 550 hp 510 lb/ft.
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alpineweissM3 I love my beautiful wife! 22 Rep 628 Posts Drives: e90 ///M Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (0)	I don't know of a better sounding stock exhaust than the mustang gt. Exotics excluded of course. V8 'stangers are a ton of fun to drive, but no comparison to the total package our beloved M3's offer. So, to the original poster, please go get a GT. The less M3's on the road the better....as far as I'm concerned.
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saeedg48 Brigadier General 342 Rep 3,574 Posts Drives: Porsche 991.1 GT3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Newport Beach, CA iTrader: (1)	Those numbers are off.. __________________ 2015 Porsche 991.1 GT3 2015 F80 M3 -- Individual; Space Grey
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Crazy Bimmer The Jesal 391 Rep 5,859 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chicago IL iTrader: (20) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	POLL http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/16/2...w-m3-tie-game/ __________________ 2009 E90 M3 - SOLD
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Gearhead999s Major General 814 Rep 7,888 Posts Drives: RR Velar R=Dynamic M2C R1200GS Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	To drive as an everyday car,the M3 is the winner but for best bang for the $ the Stang is an absolute steal!
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Krozi Colonel 167 Rep 2,736 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 ///M3 Alpine White Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SoFla - Bonita Springs iTrader: (24)	Yea no. __________________ 2008 E92 ///M3 Alpine White//Fox Red//6MT// Florida Bimmer - Join us on FaceBook!
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M3Alpine Lieutenant Colonel 52 Rep 1,512 Posts Drives: M4 AW/SO Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central NJ iTrader: (11)	i wouldnt consider it a better car by any means but yes its a great performer for the price __________________ 2002 AW/IR : Sold 2004 AW/BLK : Sold 2009 AW/FR : Sold 2015 AW/SO
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neeeeenja New Member 0 Rep 16 Posts Drives: e90 330i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	2011 gt vs m3 you guys see what they're saying about the new 2011 gt? http://jalopnik.com/5518750/is-the-n...-than-a-bmw-m3 any comments? Attached Images __________________
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04-17-2010, 12:38 PM	#21
Chill72 Banned 110 Rep 896 Posts Drives: 10 E92 M3 (RIP) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	those numbers are pretty even...the Mustang looks pretty good too but then you sit inside and you realize why it costs what it does. Interior design and overall fit and finish are pretty important to me.
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