2012 International Engine of the Year Award

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by Ezio

So how is a engine judged to win this award?

because its amazes me the engines the S65 beat out in points. So many people get a hard on for those 911 turbos and GTRs. I cant see much love for the s65. a lot of people i feel like dont like it nor understand it.

It's largely subjective. The IEotY awards are given by a panel of journalists. The winner has as much to do with what is en vogue at the time of the judging as it does anything. The current overall IEotY award holder (until July, anyway) is a Ford inline-3 EcoBoost motor. Obviously more of a focus on economy here than performance.

Also note that the reign of the S65 was in the 3.0-4.0L category, not the overall. BMW last won the overall category with the N54 (a forced induction motor). The S65 never won the overall; that award went to the S85 back in 2006 and 2006. I'm not trying to discredit the S65. I just think people often overlook the fact that there are many categories.

My assessment is that the journalists use the different categories to issue awards to engines that represent different aspects of an engine's character. It's a way for them to communicate what is important to them in each of the respective character aspects: economy, specific output, forced induction, naturally aspirated, etc.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by davesaddiction

It is pretty clear that BMW, Porsche and Ferrari are making this change away from NA engines because they feel like they have to met efficiency and emissions targets, and not because they want to.

looking at past winners, it looks like a pretty decent spread of turbo/SC and NA...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ne_of_the_Year

I would say Ward doesn't discriminate and assesses the engines on the innovative or technical design...

Since 1999, the 1.8 to 2.0L category has been consistently a turbo, aside from the S2000 engine.

Heck, I owned two motors on this list, the S65B40 and the M57TUD30, and the M57 is a turbo diesel.

[1MOREMOD]

didnt know the m57 won guess i have had 3 then.

[Flying Ace]

M57 is a pretty sweet engine, better than the S65 IMO, they should have put it in the M3....

What ever happened to the performance Audi diesel that was suppose to get technology transfer from the R10 race car?
http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publi...cle_3828.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_R10_TDI

[1MOREMOD]

Does pull harder than my s54!

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Does pull harder than my s54!

you can use your M57 to pull your S54, but if you use your S54 to pull your M57, you might throw a RB through your firewall

[swagkingcole]

My favorite line "usability and fuel-efficiency is truly unique"

Fuel-effeciency must be a VERY relative term, hahahah

Im averaging 12-13mpg for the last 5 months

[Edward]

Great engine. But are there all that many engines in the 3-4l spectrum worth buying? Virtually all V8s are over 4 liter these days even with forced induction and the 3-4l engines are typically unremarkable. I'm talking about those odd 3.x liter NA V6 engines that liter the Japanese cars that just flat out suck.

I'm gunna just say it but if the M3 tipped over into 4,001 cc, it may have picked up far fewer awards in the above 4 category. Even with the S54 BMW dominated the 3-4l space because back then their competition was even more pitiful.

I'm shocked that McLaren didn't start picking up awards in the category earlier on with their 3.8 l turbo.

Anyhow, this motor is simply epic to drive and it will be tough driving a car with less response if I don't move on the a GT3 or something else with a powertrain with similar characteristics.

[Edward]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

you can use your M57 to pull your S54, but if you use your S54 to pull your M57, you might throw a RB through your firewall

You can use your Infiniti m57 powered by an m57 to tow your s54 straight into the ass end of an mbz s65. Now that could cost you a leg.

[Beemdog]

All this talk of ultimate engines has me craving a V12 (again). Just one before I die. A bucket list thing. Anyone else have that? There are a couple here local to me (Murcielago and F12) and the sound of them is heavenly. Sigh.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by Beemdog

All this talk of ultimate engines has me craving a V12 (again). Just one before I die. A bucket list thing. Anyone else have that? There are a couple here local to me (Murcielago and F12) and the sound of them is heavenly. Sigh.

I too am craving a 12-way, or at least a 8-way

[surewin]

Originally Posted by Law

http://docslide.us/documents/interna...ards-2012.html

Scroll to the bottom and click download

Nice! Puts my screenshots to shame

[surewin]

Originally Posted by Ezio

So how is a engine judged to win this award?

because its amazes me the engines the S65 beat out in points. So many people get a hard on for those 911 turbos and GTRs. I cant see much love for the s65. a lot of people i feel like dont like it nor understand it.

Rules and scoring methodology:

http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyear/rules-scoring.php