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      12-28-2012, 05:49 PM   #23
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Do any 18s clear these! They look great though
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yea, those look heavy. Or he has really small hands
Anyone have the weight comparisson of the Alcon Caliper and something else?
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      12-28-2012, 06:00 PM   #25
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Just found something online:
http://www.alconusa.com/client_images/files/92_1177.pdf
Alcon claims the assembly is lighter than stock.
at 384x34mm front disc and 370x30mm rear disk specs, these are monsters

Looks like they will clear stock 220 style rims. Good luch with 18s
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I end up getting stoptech trophy bbk and endless pads, stop power is
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      12-28-2012, 06:12 PM   #27
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So how does open hat and closed hat design compare to wear/tear for the street. I mean with all the salt, dirt and water in theory, closed hat design should be better for longevity no?
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Do any 18s clear these! They look great though
Yup. When I had my Alcons, I ran both a set of 18" Volk TE37SL and 18" Advan TCIII. The TCIII had a bit more clearance.

Congrats on the Alcon kit. I loved them, and combined with the Pagid RS29, you'll never run out of brakes.
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      12-30-2012, 01:23 PM   #29
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Yup. When I had my Alcons, I ran both a set of 18" Volk TE37SL and 18" Advan TCIII. The TCIII had a bit more clearance.

Congrats on the Alcon kit. I loved them, and combined with the Pagid RS29, you'll never run out of brakes.
It's shame, I didn't order RS29 pads with this kit. I will order next time.
I couldn't believe that I can get this kit much under $7k shipped to me, so I took it, as it is. I consider to order second kit, and keep as replacement.
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Do any 18s clear these! They look great though
I don't think they clear the 219Ms, as I remember researching this sometime ago, but I didn't get a template to test fit myself to confirm. Litchfieldimports.co.uk are probably the best people to speak to as they have been using Alcons for all their type 20s/25s and GT-Rs. They also have the kit for our cars. They work very closely with Alcon R&D as well.
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      12-31-2012, 03:46 AM   #31
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Do any 18s clear these! They look great though
I don't think they clear the 219Ms, as I remember researching this sometime ago, but I didn't get a template to test fit myself to confirm. Litchfieldimports.co.uk are probably the best people to speak to as they have been using Alcons for all their type 20s/25s and GT-Rs. They also have the kit for our cars. They work very closely with Alcon R&D as well.
Ah nice one will check out the link .. Quite sure the Alcon kit has no hope of clearing oem 18s. Still stuck with the issue of spacer + aps OR 260Ms + aps (no spacers) OR after market 18s + Any BBK ....
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      12-31-2012, 07:12 AM   #32
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Superkit caliper doesn't clear any of OEM 18" wheels I afraid. I e-mailed JDL-brakes, and they said, only 19" OEM wheels, and maybe some aftermarket 18"
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      12-31-2012, 09:07 AM   #33
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Superkit caliper doesn't clear any of OEM 18" wheels I afraid. I e-mailed JDL-brakes, and they said, only 19" OEM wheels, and maybe some aftermarket 18"
Yes. Even my winters are 19's. There is a thread about which 18's clear the Bembo 380 kit and those wheels, thus far, clear the alcons as well. Good luck and these brakes rock
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Friend of mine, thinks to order Alcon too, and I thought if there is any other interested buyer, he can get couple of hundreds cheaper if two sets are ordered at one time. There are probably last days of sale http://www.jdl-brakes.com/alcon-supe...mw-m3-e92.html
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      01-13-2013, 01:39 PM   #35
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I couldn't resist and I ordered Pagid RS29 pads to my Alcon Superkit. To be honest so far, I see no difference between yellow Pagids, and standard pads from Superkit ( RS9-2 right ??? ) Maybe I will see difference on track, but so far, I think standard pads worked even better when were cold.
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I couldn't resist and I ordered Pagid RS29 pads to my Alcon Superkit. To be honest so far, I see no difference between yellow Pagids, and standard pads from Superkit ( RS9-2 right ??? ) Maybe I will see difference on track, but so far, I think standard pads worked even better when were cold.
The RS29 are enduro pads, and meant to deal with sustained heat. What you'll find is that at the track, the RS29 will remain unbelievably consistent, even under high heat loads, whereas the RS9-2 will taper off in performance relatively quickly.
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The RS29 are enduro pads, and meant to deal with sustained heat. What you'll find is that at the track, the RS29 will remain unbelievably consistent, even under high heat loads, whereas the RS9-2 will taper off in performance relatively quickly.
You are right. They perform very well on track, but I think after couple of week of use, also much better on street.
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Yes. Even my winters are 19's. There is a thread about which 18's clear the Bembo 380 kit and those wheels, thus far, clear the alcons as well. Good luck and these brakes rock
I'd like to see this thread if anyone found it.
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I'd like to see this thread if anyone found it.
This?

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=advan
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i have just recieved my alcon bbk, it has only 4 brake lines is that meant to be the case?
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i have just recieved my alcon bbk, it has only 4 brake lines is that meant to be the case?
4 lines for 4 calipers...yep I'd say that's right
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It would probably have been between Stoptech Trophy's and the Brembos. I honestly could go with either. I'm happy with my kit though.
do you think the trophy ed. is worth the extra 1k???????
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I had Brembo GT 380mm all around, and now I have Alcon 355mm all around (Alcon Advantage Extreme).

For the Brembos I was running the Brembo pads that came with the set, and was on ZCP wheels with 245/265 PSS.

For the Alcon I am running Ferodo DS2500, and am on Rays RE30 Clubsport, 18x9.5/18x11; 265/285 PSS.

The Brembo had very linear braking power. Felt like the kit was well made and matched the car very well. Perhaps the pads were good for the street, but upon spirited driving the car didn't stop as well after 10-15 min.

The Alcon, once warmed up, had a more aggressive bite than Brembo. It's not as aggressive as AP, so it's in between Brembo and AP, which is perfect. You can run it harder than the Brembos and they don't feel that they will fade as quickly.

I believe it's down to the pad you use and the brand you like. I've had pleasant experience with both brands.



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