Nissan just furthered f"ck"d over their GT-R customers.

swamp2 · 05-20-2009, 01:52 AM

M3WC · 05-20-2009, 03:13 AM

The way things are going the GTR is going to be a limited run. They keep adding things you can't do in the warranty and raising msrp every year.

Think about it, if you track your car and have tranny issues. Then you need a new tranny, that is $20,000.

McLuVan · 05-20-2009, 03:32 AM

starting the car will void warranty

MJC///M3 · 05-20-2009, 09:22 AM

lol..car is a joke......

jewishcubbiesfan · 05-20-2009, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by McLuVan

starting the car will void warranty

I don't know why but everytime I see your sig picture I sit there and watch it over and over and over again. Even though I have probably already watched it 1000 times. wow.

URBAN LEGEND · 05-20-2009, 12:12 PM

Whats a GT-R?

D1911 · 05-20-2009, 12:42 PM

wow... this is like owning a fun boring car.

surfcitym3 · 05-20-2009, 12:54 PM

Harsh. Would the cops be able to legally read your black box and see if you were breaking the law (speeding) if you were to crash? How detailed and what information does the box store?

Archon · 05-20-2009, 01:07 PM

I am beginning to think Porsche wasn't crying wolf. Why would Nissan void your warranty for tracking the car when they specifically blew their horns about record lap times and have separate tracking service schedules along side normal ones. Are they hiding something?

I went to M school and the instructors were pushing me all day to drive faster and harder. After I did, then they SHOWED me what my M3 really can do.

BMW - FTW
Nissan - EPIC Fail

jaiman · 05-20-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam12345

Taking car past 3k will probabyl soon void warranty, or going past 2k miels per year for 1 year

the irony of this post and your signature......

Georgeair · 05-20-2009, 01:59 PM

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Except when stuck, there is no reason to be driving with VDC OFF.

Thank you so very much for making this decision for me.....

Did I miss the press release where all this car's development was geared toward was replacing my Yukon as a foul-weather SUV?

consolidated · 05-20-2009, 02:30 PM

More troubling for owners is why Nissan would so severely restrict the warranty coverage, I can only think that the car is just not durable for anything other than moderate street use. Otherwise, they'll be paying out warranty repairs way past the initial loss of the original selling price. I believe they sold the car at a loss which is why the MSRP is continually making large price jumps.

bogdan · 05-20-2009, 03:18 PM

Awesome! It's the car that you can only magazine race!

1cleanm6 · 05-20-2009, 03:32 PM

wow gtr what a joke....

so why on earth are they breaking there backs for a record lap at N-burg.

Wow so whats the point, if the owner does it itll void warranty.

NISSAN.....READ THIS CLOSELY...

PORSCHE=THERE IS NO SUBSITUTE

PowerLex · 05-20-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by M2381

From the article:

"It seems you aren't really the owner of the GT-R, only a minor inconvenience in Nissan's perfect engineering exercise."

So so true...

That is the best explanation I have ever heard for this crap...Bravo

It's just frustrating. I think the idea of just not buying the warranty up front and getting the car for much cheaper probably, is a great idea.

GTM · 05-20-2009, 08:07 PM

This is why im glad i own an 09 model... haha. my warranty book and papers read much differently

SoreHead · 05-20-2009, 09:22 PM

It's crazy alright. Way overboard and I'm sure they wouldn't get away with it if someone was in a position to challenge them in court but one thing to note is that if you take your GT3 or M3 out on a track day and blow up the engine or gearbox both Porsche and BMW will tell you to go choke before they'll cover it under warranty.

No manufacturer will cover damage on track days etc.

consolidated · 05-20-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SoreHead

one thing to note is that if you take your GT3 or M3 out on a track day and blow up the engine or gearbox both Porsche and BMW will tell you to go choke before they'll cover it under warranty.

No manufacturer will cover damage on track days etc.

No true. I personally know that Porsche will replace motors even from track use under certain circumstances. However, if you catch a level 5 overrev your out of luck, and skill.

Ca$hOnly · 05-20-2009, 10:35 PM

The way I read it is that Nissan states they will not cover PROBLEMS related to racing, dyno, track use, etc... Meaning if you go to a track and blow the engine, they will not cover it. If your wheels fall off on the dyno, they will not cover it.

They only will VOID your warranty completely if you fuck with the ECU.

SoreHead · 05-20-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by consolidated

No true. I personally know that Porsche will replace motors even from track use under certain circumstances. However, if you catch a level 5 overrev your out of luck, and skill.

Under what circumstances? If you pay them 20k to do it?

Chris_S · 05-24-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SoreHead

Under what circumstances? If you pay them 20k to do it?

His post is based on personal experience, and Porsche overnighted an engine from Germany w/ no questions asked...despite having all kinds of mods that would have given them a ready excuse to void the warranty (they even bolted the aftermarket exhaust and plenum to the replacement engine).

Dascamel · 05-24-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by McLuVan

starting the car will void warranty

Greatest sig ever!!!

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Archon Private First Class 13 Rep 154 Posts Drives: E92 M3 DCT AW/BLK Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	I am beginning to think Porsche wasn't crying wolf. Why would Nissan void your warranty for tracking the car when they specifically blew their horns about record lap times and have separate tracking service schedules along side normal ones. Are they hiding something? I went to M school and the instructors were pushing me all day to drive faster and harder. After I did, then they SHOWED me what my M3 really can do. BMW - FTW Nissan - EPIC Fail
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