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      12-11-2008, 07:01 PM   #1
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Just getting into HDR editing. What exposure settings do you guys use for editing RAW images? I use -2, 0, and +2...are those the universal numbers or do you guys use others?

Also, after you get to tone mapping, how much do you mess around with setting usually?
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I use +2, 3 shots, play alot with tone mapping!
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I use +2, 3 shots, play alot with tone mapping!
Same here!

Here was my first attempt:

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Wanna give it a shot with my original so we can compare?
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Here's my render.
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Here's my render.
looks half animated
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Here's one of my first HDR attempts. I really like the light pole in this pic.
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Its totally subjective - different settings work for different photos. You've just got to experiment.

Some of mine done in photomatix









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Here's one of my first HDR attempts. I really like the light pole in this pic.
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Its totally subjective - different settings work for different photos. You've just got to experiment.

Some of mine done in photomatix
Very nice work guys...in your opinions', how does mine look?
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IMO - the effect is too pronounced - but you may have been after that effect??
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I wanted the yellow to be pronounced, and the background to be a little more subtle. Didn't work too well lol
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IMO - the effect is too pronounced - but you may have been after that effect??

DOH - I was looking at the other render!!!! Yours is a lot less pronounced!!
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DOH - I was looking at the other render!!!! Yours is a lot less pronounced!!
Guess he was being sarcastic. If you have a few extra minutes can you edit the original I posted up. I want some practice before I take the Lambo out for a photoshoot!
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Very nice work guys...in your opinions', how does mine look?
I think you did very well with it. I typcially use the HDR to get vivid "saturated" colors, I think it adds a surreal quality to the image. The added detail it gives helps as well.

I do not like HDR being over used though to the point where it looks like an over done photoshop filter.
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Thanks man...everytime I take pictures of a car, I get the car to take up most of the picture. However, with HDR photos, bringing out vivid colors in background items such as containers, trees, clouds, etc...calls for a bigger background! Now I need to find a good backdrop so I can start shooting.
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Thanks man...everytime I take pictures of a car, I get the car to take up most of the picture. However, with HDR photos, bringing out vivid colors in background items such as containers, trees, clouds, etc...calls for a bigger background! Now I need to find a good backdrop so I can start shooting.
HDR does really well pulling out colors in the sky. Try to shoot early afternoon, morning or with a storm rolling in.

Here's an example. Not mine
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again, like i just said in a different thread. You want the luminosity all the way up to eliminate the "halo" effect you see under the car. Also, you are probably trying a little too hard for that cartoonish effect... try medium smoothing instead (this is in reference to Jnic's rendition). Also, like I've said 1000 times, try using just 1 raw image especially when starting out with this program. more times than not you won't get the best result because you aren't bracketing properly. its not about being exactly at -2, 0, +2 for the shots... besides unless you are using a real light meter you aren't actually getting the perfect "0" exposure because you are measuring the light with the camera seen in the frame which can be wrong and distorted because of a black or white object in the photo.

Shoot raw, use 1 exposure to start off and work on getting 1 properly exposed picture rather than 3 or 5, let photomatix decide how it wants to bracket and your pics will look a lot better.
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My attempts if someone can help. I did everything exactly as your supposed to. I got the stupid watermarks out of one so far but the other ones didn't merge correctly or did something strange to high reflected areas. I did -2,0,+2. Also nice Lambo





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Seems like you have some one-on-one training to do, Badger
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My attempts if someone can help. I did everything exactly as your supposed to. I got the stupid watermarks out of one so far but the other ones didn't merge correctly or did something strange to high reflected areas. I did -2,0,+2. Also nice Lambo
Thanks man..wanna put the originals up so we can take a shot?
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Thanks man..wanna put the originals up so we can take a shot?
Trying to upload them now

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Damn this is annoying to do. I have to downsize them now. Lol I don't know if I have the attention span for this.

Bah nevermind I can't even upload the full image size on Photobucket. I got one picture working though:


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Sorry for the late response, I thought you would post the picture in a new post. When I saw no new posts I didnt open the thread, until now. Well, here's my attempt:

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