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02-27-2011, 01:20 PM | #25 |
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Petro Canada Ultra 94 (Previously Sunoco Ultra 94) in Ontario has up to 15% ethanol.[/QUOTE] The pumps still say 10% for 94 around here.My car runs poorly on 94 when it is cold as it surges at low throttle openings.My e46 M3 also did the same on Sunoco 94. |
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02-27-2011, 01:42 PM | #26 | |
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The pumps may say 10% and that is probably the level the refinery wants to have it at. On some batches it will actually exceed it by a few percentage points. Since the Ultra 94 is a 94 octane and the ethanol is the component in it that gives you the extra AKI rating, it is always at at least 10% to meet it's criteria for AKI of 94. It is really hard to control ethanol content exactly when you are making hundreds of thousands of litres of fuel a day, there is probably a +/- 1 or 2% variance on the ethanol content. This is going to be true for for any refiner that ethanol blends fuel. |
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02-27-2011, 03:08 PM | #27 |
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Interesting insight. The station in Crowfoot was advertising Ethanol the last time I drove through their lot. Granted, that was three years ago, and haven't been there since for that very reason. As I say, my S2000, X3, and 335i were all treated to Shell/Esso, and I'll follow the same for my M. A |
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02-27-2011, 04:05 PM | #28 | |
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Shell and Esso does use ethanol in their regular and mid grade fuels in some Canadian provinces but like Petro Canada their premium fuels are indeed ethanol free. The refinery where the fuel comes from and the local legislations is what determines where the ethanol blended fuels (regular and midgrade) are sold. Almost all fuel in AB regardless of grade is ethanol free with the exception of Husky-Mohawk. Husky and Mohawk is the only one that uses ethanol in all of their grades and in all provinces and they use it as a selling point in their "Mother Nature's Gas Station" motto. Don't worry, if you fuel up at either of the big three (Shell, Esso, Petro Canada) Canadian gas stations in any Province you will be getting ethanol free fuel as long as you are buying premium! You are lucky to have that wonderful ethanol free 94 Octane available to you...... you guys in Montreal are the only people that get the 94 Octane Petro Canada fuel sans ethanol. It is not the same fuel as Petro Canada Ultra 94 available in Ontario, it is much better!!!
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02-27-2011, 04:58 PM | #29 |
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Agreed on supporting ones's employer-especially in these economic times. They did help pay for the M after all *grin*
Did you happen to see the article on Global yesterday? It was interesting to see how many people would consider switching to a lower grade fuel in light of the recent price hikes, despite what the vehicle actually needs. Better to pay now at the pump or pay later (dearly) is the way I see it! Hope I get to see your car in person this summer. Looks phenomenal! Asif |
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02-27-2011, 07:13 PM | #31 | |
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Suncor Edmonton's highest octane gasoline produced is the Superclean 91. Unfortunately at this point there is no plan of refining the Superclean 94 at any other refinery besides Montreal. Even the Ontario folks are going to have to settle for Superclean 91 as their ethanol free Petro Canada choice. Ultra 94 is always going to be ethanol blended, especially considering the increased ethanol capacity plans at our St. Clair ethanol plant which is close to the Suncor's Sarnia Refinery. |
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Before I hired on with Suncor I used to use mostly Shell V-Power (or Gold as it used to be called). That being said, I never had a problem buying gas from Esso, or Petro-Canada when I needed fuel and I was out of town.
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I am in drummondville quebec and, when i request information 2years ago about ethanol, they told me the 94 had 10+% of ethanol so i switch to esso supreme.
Anybody know if it changed ? Shell v power is better than esso supreme ? |
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There are lots of choices in the US. Mobil, Shell, Amoco, Chevron. When in Washington state I always bought Chevron 94 Octane (ethanol free).
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Cool thanks! Glad to know that chevron 94 in WA is also ethanol free
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Check this website for ethanol-free station listings. Not sure how accurate it is. http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=WA W.
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Anyone care to chime in? Seems like an interesting technicality to me. As far as I know aren't the different grades in separate tanks or is there a chem lab in each pump?? |
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Just saw Petro Canada in Calgary started to carry Ultra 94, anyone uses it? Do you guys recommend it over Shell V Power 91?
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