Ground Control spring kit? Anyone have this?

BarryC · 02-11-2010, 07:30 AM

At the risk of appearing to be a GC fanboy - here's a link to a 335i owner's experience with GC:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=330347

Radiation Joe · 02-11-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew 912

Feel so bad to Motons, it seems everyone is dumping the system and shifting to some other brands. I hope they can fix the noise it is just too pity............ such a great looking products

This is not that uncommon of a problem. The RS6 crowd used to replace their struts with very nice expensive Ohlins. There were multiple stories of noise from them. I think this is a problem associated with using a shock designed for racing in a daily driver environment.

Jaypod · 02-11-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BarryC

At the risk of appearing to be a GC fanboy - here's a link to a 335i owner's experience with GC:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=330347

Good info - Thanks Fanboy! (Mods please change his name....

) Just kidding - not fan boy at all.

What did you do with your Motons out of curiousity?

Radiation Joe · 02-11-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rldzhao

Hey BC,

The rear spring rates sound fine. But how confident are you that the front stock EDC can handle springs with a much higher rate? (160 lbs/in vs. 430 lbs/in)

I wonder if someone could get a set of EDC dampers rebuilt with different fluid. Redline makes shock fluid if I remember correctly. There is a very good shock rebuilder at Sears Point (http://performanceshock.com/). Get Jay, Redline and the rebuilder talking and you might end up with an EDC system that works better with stiffer springs.

BarryC · 02-11-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Radiation Joe

This is not that uncommon of a problem. The RS6 crowd used to replace their struts with very nice expensive Ohlins. There were multiple stories of noise from them. I think this is a problem associated with using a shock designed for racing in a daily driver environment.

Welll I'm not sure I agree because the noise was not constant (i.e, I've had the struts be totally quiet for a few weeks and then begin to make more and more noise over time) and the performance of the shock seemed to degrade as the noise got worse. My understanding is air gets in and the noise begins. So Moton's belief is fix the leak fix the noise. Hopefully they are right.

BC

BarryC · 02-11-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaypod

Good info - Thanks Fanboy! (Mods please change his name....

) Just kidding - not fan boy at all.

What did you do with your Motons out of curiousity?

I worked out a deal with BW and Moton to return the kit. Both of us did the "give a little get a little" routine....

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Originally Posted by Radiation Joe

I wonder if someone could get a set of EDC dampers rebuilt with different fluid. Redline makes shock fluid if I remember correctly. There is a very good shock rebuilder at Sears Point (http://performanceshock.com/). Get Jay, Redline and the rebuilder talking and you might end up with an EDC system that works better with stiffer springs.

Sounds like a interesting idea. Will follow-up with Jay.

Thx!
BC

Jaypod · 02-11-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BarryC

I worked out a deal with BW and Moton to return the kit. Both of us did the "give a little get a little" routine....

BC

Nice to hear they worked something out with you. I have to say, the GC are making me rethink the KWV3's

MMMorish · 02-11-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaypod

Very interested in hearing some reviews on this kit.

Same here.

STALKER · 02-11-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaypod

Nice to hear they worked something out with you. I have to say, the GC are making me rethink the KWV3's

Do you have EDC?

I will call GC today or tomorrow to see what they can do for ppl without EDC. I was really happy with their stuff on my e46 M3.

Good luck with the new set up Barry.

STALKER · 02-11-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BarryC

Looks like I'll be getting everything next week and the week after next I've got a track event at VIR. So I should be able to post my observations at that time. Won't be able to talk track times as I don't really keep up with that besides the conditions will be totally different than the last time I was at VIR on the Motons.

Thx,
BC

I would be very interested to hear your review on the different feel of the kits on the same track. Please let us know.

MMMorish · 02-11-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaypod

Nice to hear they worked something out with you. I have to say, the GC are making me rethink the KWV3's

And the GC's are less than half the price of the KWV3's.

Jaypod · 02-11-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

Do you have EDC?

I will call GC today or tomorrow to see what they can do for ppl without EDC. I was really happy with their stuff on my e46 M3.

Good luck with the new set up Barry.

No I dont have EDC - Let us know what you find out. Thanks!

BarryC · 02-11-2010, 07:23 PM

Here's some pics of my kit that will be here on 2/18:

Front strut assembly with my EDC strut:

Kit will be installed on 2/22 and I'll post impressions then. Looks very nice!

BTW - the cost was $899. Take that Dinan!

BC

MrHarris · 02-11-2010, 07:32 PM

899 for springs only, or are there other components as well?

If this is a spring only kit, how much is the drop front and rear?

STALKER · 02-11-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrHarris

899 for springs only, or are there other components as well?

If this is a spring only kit, how much is the drop front and rear?

Its everything you see in the pics.
Drop is adjustable, not sure what the max drop is, but Im sure its over an inch if you want.

gthirtyfizle · 02-11-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrHarris

899 for springs only, or are there other components as well?

If this is a spring only kit, how much is the drop front and rear?

He just posted pics of the whole kit. Its not just prings. Its springs, camber plates, in which I believe Barry also got the camber/caster adjustment ones, and bump stops, ... Also, the springs r height adjustable and edc compatible. I think this is as close as edc compatible coilover as well get. Placing my order tom.

gthirtyfizle · 02-11-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

Its everything you see in the pics.
Drop is adjustable, not sure what the max drop is, but Im sure its over an inch if you want.

I believe jay said it about 1.25"

BarryC · 02-11-2010, 08:29 PM

It's everything in the pics, bumpstops and rear shock mounts. I'm going for approx. 1" drop.

BC

MMMorish · 02-11-2010, 08:29 PM

Now that's a nice looking kit. Dinan's don't look so good anymore!

STALKER · 02-11-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BarryC

It's everything in the pics and rear shock mounts. I'm going for approx. 1" drop.

BC

Barry,
Did Jay give you a few choices of spring rates? I'm curious to see the range.

Jaypod · 02-11-2010, 08:39 PM

I contacted Jay today. He confirmed the kit works for non-edc suspensions as well.

Here is a recap of what the kit includes and an additional pic:

The kit comes with:

Street camber plates (that allow use of EDC wires)
Adjustable ride height conversion for the stock struts
front springs, 3 choices because they have to match stock damping. The
stock damping is pretty good however.
front sway bar brackets for strut
front sway bar end linkls (adjustable)
front bump stops

rear ride height adjustment
rear bump stops
rear ride height adjustment
rear springs, 5 choices to match front.
rear shock mounts (GC "hybrid" exclusive), allows use of EDC wires

I am really starting to lean toward this - pretty impressed

STALKER · 02-11-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaypod

I contacted Jay today. He confirmed the kit works for non-edc suspensions as well.

Here is a recap of what the kit includes and an additional pic:

The kit comes with:

Street camber plates (that allow use of EDC wires)
Adjustable ride height conversion for the stock struts
front springs, 3 choices because they have to match stock damping. The
stock damping is pretty good however.
front sway bar brackets for strut
front sway bar end linkls (adjustable)
front bump stops

rear ride height adjustment
rear bump stops
rear ride height adjustment
rear springs, 5 choices to match front.
rear shock mounts (GC "hybrid" exclusive), allows use of EDC wires

I am really starting to lean toward this - pretty impressed

All for $899!!!!!

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BarryC Major 121 Rep 1,198 Posts Drives: '15 M3 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kernersville NC iTrader: (12)	Here's some pics of my kit that will be here on 2/18: Front strut assembly with my EDC strut: Kit will be installed on 2/22 and I'll post impressions then. Looks very nice! BTW - the cost was $899. Take that Dinan! BC __________________ '15 M3, '16 911 Turbo S Cab
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Jaypod Brigadier General 125 Rep 4,971 Posts Drives: Frozen M3, AM V8V, 991 GT3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto iTrader: (7)	I contacted Jay today. He confirmed the kit works for non-edc suspensions as well. Here is a recap of what the kit includes and an additional pic: The kit comes with: Street camber plates (that allow use of EDC wires) Adjustable ride height conversion for the stock struts front springs, 3 choices because they have to match stock damping. The stock damping is pretty good however. front sway bar brackets for strut front sway bar end linkls (adjustable) front bump stops rear ride height adjustment rear bump stops rear ride height adjustment rear springs, 5 choices to match front. rear shock mounts (GC "hybrid" exclusive), allows use of EDC wires I am really starting to lean toward this - pretty impressed Attached Images
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