What i wouldn't give for an M3 Wagon!

Alex1911 · 11-07-2010, 04:30 PM

I would have seriously considered an M3 wagon if one was available. However since my M3 isn't my daily driver, I likely would have stuck with the sedan.

America's attitude toward wagons is pretty silly. These aren't the 70's land yacht station wagons anymore. Many people would be much better off with a wagon than an SUV, unless you just gotta have the "sitting above the world" feeling. Taking your kids to school, soccer, etc. doesn't really require a Suburban.

Though I gotta be honest, I don't really consider an X5 to be an SUV (neither does BMW).

e92_m3 · 11-08-2010, 01:07 AM

Thank you serge for posting a rendering of how an e91 M3 would look like. Damn, it looks really good!

All I could say is that when compared to our European counterparts, a lot of Americans still has not grasp the fact that driving a wagon is just as good as driving an SUV with the exception of the wagon being faster and being able to outhandle a lot of the SUV's in most cases. If the Americans liked wagons in the first place, the Audi Avant SW RS4/RS6 wagon, the Mercedes Benz C63 wagon, the BMW 335i wagon, and the 1-series wagon, should have been imported in our shores in the first place. I just can't believe it because to this day, we still don't have those wagons here! We just love big, gas guzzling SUV's...

Templar · 11-08-2010, 04:02 AM

I have my E92 for pleasure, but I need an SUV (a small one, not a massive one) for a couple of reasons.

I don't need or want it to have power or anything flashy. The more and more I look, the more I like the X3. It's not huge, but it's very nice. I also like the Mercedes ML350. They are smaller than your Ford Explorers and Chevy Tahoes.

I need it because I move things around a lot being in the military. I have big boxes and I also have a big dog that lives with me. I love my dog, but he will never step foot in my M3 (he sheds and drools like a champ, haha).

A lot of the big SUV's in the States are not needed at all. I really don't know why people buy them anymore. I can understand people who use trucks for their jobs, or if they tend to travel a lot, but I will never understand the woman who drives a Chevy Suburban with the extended back to go to the store and pick up groceries. Groceries fit just fine in the trunk of my little Mitsubishi Eclipse, which probably gets double the gas mileage that her Suburban does.

mkoesel · 11-08-2010, 05:32 AM

Closest we can actually hope for from BMW is an X1 M or X2 M. I imagine these would not be produced until the next generation X1 comes out - 6 years away. Probably AWD only however.

quality_sound · 11-08-2010, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Templar

I have my E92 for pleasure, but I need an SUV (a small one, not a massive one) for a couple of reasons.

I don't need or want it to have power or anything flashy. The more and more I look, the more I like the X3. It's not huge, but it's very nice. I also like the Mercedes ML350. They are smaller than your Ford Explorers and Chevy Tahoes.

I need it because I move things around a lot being in the military. I have big boxes and I also have a big dog that lives with me. I love my dog, but he will never step foot in my M3 (he sheds and drools like a champ, haha).

A lot of the big SUV's in the States are not needed at all. I really don't know why people buy them anymore. I can understand people who use trucks for their jobs, or if they tend to travel a lot, but I will never understand the woman who drives a Chevy Suburban with the extended back to go to the store and pick up groceries. Groceries fit just fine in the trunk of my little Mitsubishi Eclipse, which probably gets double the gas mileage that her Suburban does.

What does one of those small SUVs do that a wagon won't? Absolutely nothing. Well, not for you, and that was the reason for my initial post. I'm not calling you out or anything, I just thought this was a perfect example of the mentality that American automakers have cultivated.

Salespunk · 11-08-2010, 09:44 PM

I currently have an A4 Avant in addition to my M3. I like the car, but my wife loves it. I told her I was going to sell it and she said absolutely not. I can get any other car I want, but it is not going anywhere.

The A4 works well for just about everything. We do have a large SUV as well since we have four kids, but we very rarely drive it. The only time we drive it is when all six of us are going out together.

MonteCarloM3 · 11-08-2010, 09:49 PM

Dem lucky son of a guns in Europe get this beauty....drool

quality_sound · 11-09-2010, 12:11 AM

If there was a US spec B8 S4 Avant I'd trade my M3 in right now, let alone and RS4 Avant. Hell if the A4 Avant came in a manual I'd consider it.

MonteCarloM3 · 11-09-2010, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by quality_sound

If there was a US spec B8 S4 Avant I'd trade my M3 in right now, let alone and RS4 Avant. Hell if the A4 Avant came in a manual I'd consider it.

e92_m3 · 11-09-2010, 08:56 PM

For all you wagon haters out there... Here goes:

quality_sound · 11-10-2010, 02:10 AM

Since we're sharing and all.

My old Passat variant. I still miss her.

No, it didn't always have the decals. They were on their for the sponsors for the PAS shoot. They came off before I even left for home.

hepcat · 11-10-2010, 01:34 PM

Sick cars!!! M3 Wagon would be hot, I would have gotten that instead of the sedan.

Genericuser1 · 11-10-2010, 02:19 PM

M3 Wagon with AWD would be it for me. Closest thing in the US is a Panamera 4s/Turbo or STI hatch.

Love the RS6 Avant, Audi makes the best looking wagons.

cmk227 · 11-10-2010, 02:29 PM

I saw an M5 Wagon in Munich. I see if i can post pics.

Doctor J · 11-10-2010, 03:57 PM

I'd like to see an M3 El Camino!

like this E39 M5 conversion Stuart Appleby (the Aussie pro golfer) did

http://jalopnik.com/5059957/australi...uin-ute-muster

e92_m3 · 12-03-2010, 10:50 PM

Here it is. e91 M3 with the V10 powerplant. Did I say V10???

Salivate away guys...

Exterior:

Interior:

quality_sound · 12-05-2010, 02:37 AM

It needs roof rails in a bad way.

serge · 12-05-2010, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quality_sound

It needs roof rails in a bad way.

+1

N8dawg · 12-05-2010, 09:39 PM

If one day BMW grows the sensibility to build an M3 wagon, it shall be called... Magon!

OC3 · 12-05-2010, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e92_m3

Here it is. e91 M3 with the V10 powerplant. Did I say V10???

Salivate away guys...

Exterior:

Interior:

Yeah! I would luv to put that V-10 into my E90 M3 someday.

Kiemyster · 12-06-2010, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPQR M3

M3 wagon?

That's what the X5M is for.

People will be asking for P-car wagons next.

Its threads like these that make me cry the most.

N8dawg · 12-06-2010, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiemyster

Its threads like these that make me cry the most.

+1 People just don't get it

11-07-2010, 04:30 PM	#23
Alex1911 Second Lieutenant 4 Rep 210 Posts Drives: M3 Sedan 2011 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	I would have seriously considered an M3 wagon if one was available. However since my M3 isn't my daily driver, I likely would have stuck with the sedan. America's attitude toward wagons is pretty silly. These aren't the 70's land yacht station wagons anymore. Many people would be much better off with a wagon than an SUV, unless you just gotta have the "sitting above the world" feeling. Taking your kids to school, soccer, etc. doesn't really require a Suburban. Though I gotta be honest, I don't really consider an X5 to be an SUV (neither does BMW).
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11-08-2010, 01:07 AM	#24
e92_m3 Lieutenant Colonel 194 Rep 1,680 Posts Drives: 2009 e92 m3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bay Area, California iTrader: (0)	Thank you serge for posting a rendering of how an e91 M3 would look like. Damn, it looks really good! All I could say is that when compared to our European counterparts, a lot of Americans still has not grasp the fact that driving a wagon is just as good as driving an SUV with the exception of the wagon being faster and being able to outhandle a lot of the SUV's in most cases. If the Americans liked wagons in the first place, the Audi Avant SW RS4/RS6 wagon, the Mercedes Benz C63 wagon, the BMW 335i wagon, and the 1-series wagon, should have been imported in our shores in the first place. I just can't believe it because to this day, we still don't have those wagons here! We just love big, gas guzzling SUV's...
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11-08-2010, 04:02 AM	#25
Templar Lieutenant Colonel 268 Rep 1,883 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: One of the coasts... iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW M3 [10.00]	I have my E92 for pleasure, but I need an SUV (a small one, not a massive one) for a couple of reasons. I don't need or want it to have power or anything flashy. The more and more I look, the more I like the X3. It's not huge, but it's very nice. I also like the Mercedes ML350. They are smaller than your Ford Explorers and Chevy Tahoes. I need it because I move things around a lot being in the military. I have big boxes and I also have a big dog that lives with me. I love my dog, but he will never step foot in my M3 (he sheds and drools like a champ, haha). A lot of the big SUV's in the States are not needed at all. I really don't know why people buy them anymore. I can understand people who use trucks for their jobs, or if they tend to travel a lot, but I will never understand the woman who drives a Chevy Suburban with the extended back to go to the store and pick up groceries. Groceries fit just fine in the trunk of my little Mitsubishi Eclipse, which probably gets double the gas mileage that her Suburban does. __________________ '11 BMW E92 ///M3 - ZCP and DCT '15 Ford F-250 - Lariat, 6.7 Powerstroke Turbo-diesel
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11-08-2010, 05:32 AM	#26
mkoesel Moderator 7515 Rep 19,368 Posts Drives: No BMW for now Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI iTrader: (1)	Closest we can actually hope for from BMW is an X1 M or X2 M. I imagine these would not be produced until the next generation X1 comes out - 6 years away. Probably AWD only however.
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11-08-2010, 09:44 PM	#28
Salespunk Lieutenant Colonel 1745 Rep 1,700 Posts Drives: Slow Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SlowCal iTrader: (0)	I currently have an A4 Avant in addition to my M3. I like the car, but my wife loves it. I told her I was going to sell it and she said absolutely not. I can get any other car I want, but it is not going anywhere. The A4 works well for just about everything. We do have a large SUV as well since we have four kids, but we very rarely drive it. The only time we drive it is when all six of us are going out together.
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11-08-2010, 09:49 PM	#29
MonteCarloM3 Banned 52 Rep 576 Posts Drives: a shitty M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Uranus iTrader: (0)	Dem lucky son of a guns in Europe get this beauty....drool
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11-09-2010, 12:11 AM	#30
quality_sound 8 tracks of madness 62 Rep 2,735 Posts Drives: Slowly Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: At home iTrader: (1)	If there was a US spec B8 S4 Avant I'd trade my M3 in right now, let alone and RS4 Avant. Hell if the A4 Avant came in a manual I'd consider it.
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11-09-2010, 08:56 PM	#32
e92_m3 Lieutenant Colonel 194 Rep 1,680 Posts Drives: 2009 e92 m3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bay Area, California iTrader: (0)	For all you wagon haters out there... Here goes:
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11-10-2010, 02:10 AM	#33
quality_sound 8 tracks of madness 62 Rep 2,735 Posts Drives: Slowly Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: At home iTrader: (1)	Since we're sharing and all. My old Passat variant. I still miss her. No, it didn't always have the decals. They were on their for the sponsors for the PAS shoot. They came off before I even left for home.
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11-10-2010, 01:34 PM	#34
hepcat New Member 6 Rep 8 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 jerez, slvr/blck, DCT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NA iTrader: (0)	Sick cars!!! M3 Wagon would be hot, I would have gotten that instead of the sedan.
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11-10-2010, 02:19 PM	#35
Genericuser1 Captain 22 Rep 661 Posts Drives: M3 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	M3 Wagon with AWD would be it for me. Closest thing in the US is a Panamera 4s/Turbo or STI hatch. Love the RS6 Avant, Audi makes the best looking wagons.
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11-10-2010, 02:29 PM	#36
cmk227 Major 120 Rep 1,379 Posts Drives: Goal: Another ///M Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Garland, TX & Northern England iTrader: (2)	I saw an M5 Wagon in Munich. I see if i can post pics. __________________ 14 Lexus GX460 & 14 Lexus ES300H 14 BMW 528d Touring Estate - UK Previous M's: 11 BMW M3 JZB ZCP 6MT, 02 BMW M3 Conv 6MT & 02 BMW M3 Coupe 6MT
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11-10-2010, 03:57 PM	#37
Doctor J Captain 33 Rep 741 Posts Drives: 2010 E93 M3 DCT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vancouver BC iTrader: (0)	I'd like to see an M3 El Camino! like this E39 M5 conversion Stuart Appleby (the Aussie pro golfer) did http://jalopnik.com/5059957/australi...uin-ute-muster __________________ 2010 BMW M3 vert with DCT & Akra (sold) 2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S
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12-03-2010, 10:50 PM	#38
e92_m3 Lieutenant Colonel 194 Rep 1,680 Posts Drives: 2009 e92 m3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bay Area, California iTrader: (0)	Here it is. e91 M3 with the V10 powerplant. Did I say V10??? Salivate away guys... Exterior: Interior:
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12-05-2010, 02:37 AM	#39
quality_sound 8 tracks of madness 62 Rep 2,735 Posts Drives: Slowly Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: At home iTrader: (1)	It needs roof rails in a bad way.
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12-05-2010, 09:39 PM	#41
N8dawg First Lieutenant 53 Rep 383 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: St Petersburg, Florida iTrader: (0)	If one day BMW grows the sensibility to build an M3 wagon, it shall be called... Magon!
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