M3 or 1M??

James T. Kirk · 01-24-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Well let's see....

Driver - 5'5"
Passenger - 5'7"
Me - 5'10"
My best friend - 6'1"

My best friend was seated behind my g/f and I was seated behind her best friend. We all went out to dinner, and it was fine. Again, the TWO rear seats in my E92 M3 don't offer much more room than the 128i. In fact, it seems like there is LESS headroom in my coupe.

Hey, pal. Don't confuse the debate with FACTS and INFORMED OPINIONS!

DeathByCactus · 01-24-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mthusiast

Can anyone talk me out of a 1M? I am really just not sure what I want. I can only afford about $52k so thats a new 1M or a gently used M3 sedan. I have an x3 and an x5 so space is not a concern, I am looking for the best driving experience.. Can the M3 forum help me?

I'm in sorta the same boat. Except the difference being a new M3 sedan. I'm tired of problems associated with FI and having a highly modded car though. So I am weary about the 1M and considering a new M3 before the models change out and they go completely FI.

One thing to keep in mind, is that after warranty, if the FI fails you have to replace it or deal with the crap it gives you. Any savings that exist will eventually cost you in the end and then some...

calintexas · 01-24-2011, 04:23 PM

A friend was one of the 12 winners of an early 1M Coupe customer introduction event as documented in the BMW 1 Series M Coupe Step 2 video here: http://www.youtube.com/bmw#p/u/22/lr9Z0v1Reuw
You can read his comments here (he's M3_Adjuster) starting on pg 2: http://www.lscbmwcca.org/forum/Topic10828-3-2.aspx

bkwon327 · 01-24-2011, 05:15 PM

If you are seeking a DD and just want a fun car while saving bit of money go with 1M. I've driven tuned 135i an they are very fun to drive (I own 2011 M3 ZPC). They're like little go carts. Get an M3 if you have a spare DD and extra cash to burn. I love my M3 but I don't drive it on a daily basis...

Serious · 01-24-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shift@red

I think the M3 is still more fun. Winding up to 8400 RPMs is something only a handful of cars on the market can do.
Go cart? My cayman S was like a go cart, a lotus is like a go cart, not a 135 IMHO.

I would love to know how at the conclusion that it's indeed more fun than a car you haven't driven.

kmarei · 01-24-2011, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Serious

More fun than a car you haven't driven? awesome comparison. would read again.

Well I've never driven a ferrai, but I feel confident it's more fun to drive than a M3.

Serious · 01-24-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

Well I've never driven a ferrai, but I feel confident it's more fun to drive than a M3.

Well I actually have driven a ferrari and to be honest it really isn't. FUN isn't quantifiable by engineering excellence or lap times; and can NOT be judged from anything other than the drivers seat.

My friends measly impreza put a way bigger smile on my face during the snowstorm earlier this year than the 6spd f430 this summer. Even the owner of the ferrari admitted you get 95% of the ferrari with his M5.

sensi09 · 01-24-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by calintexas

A friend was one of the 12 winners of an early 1M Coupe customer introduction event as documented in the BMW 1 Series M Coupe Step 2 video here: http://www.youtube.com/bmw#p/u/22/lr9Z0v1Reuw
You can read his comments here (he's M3_Adjuster) starting on pg 2: http://www.lscbmwcca.org/forum/Topic10828-3-2.aspx

Thanks for the link. Can't seem to read the rest of that thread though.

PKL · 01-24-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

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Originally Posted by PKL

M3, 1M total failure

What are you basing this "total failure" on? Extensive seat time? Of course not.

No one needs 1 sec of seat time to know it's NOT an M car.

It's a 135is.

Hope I don't get banned from m3post for talking true!!!

radiantm3 · 01-24-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PKL

No one needs 1 sec of seat time to know it's NOT an M car.

It's a 135is.

Hope I don't get banned from m3post for talking true!!!

Last time I checked, none of the x35is cars received a wider track, M suspension and an M diff. Must be one amazing 135is.

Serious · 01-24-2011, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

Ferrari isn't fun? Seriously? I've driven a Scuderia for 2 hours, and they basically had to pull me out of that car... I was briefly contemplating to make a run for it. The sound alone is to die for...

Sorry for the off-topic post.

No saying it wasn't an impressive experience, but for 98% of the population stuffing or even damaging a ferrari isn't something they can afford so you never exceed 6/10ths and are always extremely weary of other idiot motorists around you trying to take cell phone pics instead of paying attention to the road.

Whereas something like a mini cooper S or 130hp miata can be driven pretty much flat out and barely break the 60mph speed limit.

AMOCHOSTO · 01-25-2011, 12:29 PM

I'm 6'4 with a long torso, and I have to say the 1 series doesn't have much room for a guy my size. If you are smaller drive both and see which you like better.

BMWBoss · 01-25-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PKL

No one needs 1 sec of seat time to know it's NOT an M car.

It's a 135is.

Hope I don't get banned from m3post for talking true!!!

+1

wrh3 · 01-25-2011, 03:58 PM

I'm only 6' and with the driver seat adjusted correctly, the rear seat passenger in the 135 would have to be an amputee. With the 335, I could get in the rear after adjusting the driver seat and be comfortable.

The E30 my daughter drives has more passenger room than a 135.

Serious · 01-25-2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wrh3

The E30 my daughter drives has more passenger room than a 135.

she must have the very rare long wheelbase model e30 then.

wrh3 · 01-25-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Serious

she must have the very rare long wheelbase model e30 then.

No it's a 325es, not a 325 exl

When I adjust the drivers seat for me in that car I still have room between the rear seat and front seatback which is not the case with the 135 I drove. YMMV.

positiveions · 01-25-2011, 04:44 PM

let me talk you out of it

wrh3 · 01-25-2011, 04:49 PM

Note the space in the 3 and the seats touching in the 1? I imagine these measurements were with front seats all the way back.

http://www.**************.com/1-seri...i-vs-335i.html

Serious · 01-25-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wrh3

Note the space in the 3 and the seats touching in the 1? I imagine these measurements were with front seats all the way back.

http://www.**************.com/1-seri...i-vs-335i.html

Just because the current 3 series is the size of an e39 doesn't mean the 1 is too small.

wrh3 · 01-25-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Serious

Just because the current 3 series is the size of an e39 doesn't mean the 1 is too small.

It's not small if you only need 2 or 3 seats

Tone Capone · 01-26-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

for me it would be a tough decision bc no one has really driven the car or seen it in person. For me i would have to wait till the 1M comes in drive it walk it over and then i would be able to make my decision.

+1.........ppl are so quick to judge,wait for it to be released then do comparisons

BMWBoss · 01-26-2011, 09:54 PM

Go with the M3...The 1M is nothing but a marketing ploy. it only has 35 more hp than a 135, 335, and Z4...and only 15 more than a 335is. If you look at the history of cars that carry the coveted M badge, they all have significantly more power than all the other models...so my evaluation is the 1M isn't a real M...just a low budget M car to fill a gap and fatten BMWs wallet.

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bkwon327 Enthusiast 10 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 2011 Space Gray M3 DTC ZPC Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (0)	If you are seeking a DD and just want a fun car while saving bit of money go with 1M. I've driven tuned 135i an they are very fun to drive (I own 2011 M3 ZPC). They're like little go carts. Get an M3 if you have a spare DD and extra cash to burn. I love my M3 but I don't drive it on a daily basis...
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AMOCHOSTO Major 32 Rep 1,007 Posts Drives: IB BB E90 M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto. iTrader: (0)	I'm 6'4 with a long torso, and I have to say the 1 series doesn't have much room for a guy my size. If you are smaller drive both and see which you like better. __________________ E90 Interlagos Blue, (Winter Beater) Bamboo Beige, M-Drive, EDC, PDC, USB 6MT. Mods to date; Curb rash, Scraped front spoiler, Installed RAC Monolite RG63 Silver 1984 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe (ROW)
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wrh3 Car Guy 31 Rep 796 Posts Drives: 2005 MCS, 2013 Corvette 427 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ATL, GA iTrader: (10)	Note the space in the 3 and the seats touching in the 1? I imagine these measurements were with front seats all the way back. http://www.**************.com/1-seri...i-vs-335i.html __________________ Bill- 2005 Mini Cooper S, 2013 Corvette 427 www.billswebspace.com/bmwindex BMW CCA Member # 389948
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BMWBoss Lieutenant 13 Rep 483 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	Go with the M3...The 1M is nothing but a marketing ploy. it only has 35 more hp than a 135, 335, and Z4...and only 15 more than a 335is. If you look at the history of cars that carry the coveted M badge, they all have significantly more power than all the other models...so my evaluation is the 1M isn't a real M...just a low budget M car to fill a gap and fatten BMWs wallet.
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