M3(DCT) vs Carrera S(PDK)......finally!!!!(Thank you Gustav)

OBI_agent · 05-25-2009, 06:43 PM

FYI, the M3 coupe was modded with Hartge exhaust , kelleners ecu...

Blake · 05-25-2009, 09:48 PM

oh wow...owned

ersin · 05-25-2009, 11:00 PM

Well, that should put a lot of arguments to rest.

swamp2 · 05-25-2009, 11:52 PM

Sorry, quite old news/comparison...

M3WC · 05-26-2009, 01:31 AM

Nothing I didn't expect.

The 911 S weighs 500 lbs less and is pushing more torque than the M3 coupe.

footie · 05-26-2009, 02:18 AM

Did anyone notice any jerk from the camera during the Porsche's gear shifts?

.........No.

Exactly, I have driven the new PDK and compared to the M3 I can't feel the jerk at all, just buttery smooth shifts with maximum effect.

P.S.

If anyone expected a different result from this they were away with the fairies. The new 997 is incredibly quick (996 turbo quick), imagine what it would do to a stock M3 in either form.

Driver72 · 05-26-2009, 12:18 PM

The M3 DCT is barely, and I mean barely faster than the OLD Porsche 911S in a straight line.
The M3 DCT traps around 113 mph stock, the old C2S did 112+.
The regular Carrera with PDK out accelerated the M3 DCT in a recent Car and Driver road test.

It's no surprise the more powerful Carrera S would put a few car lengths on it.

That Kelleners tune for the M3 must suck though, doesn't seem like it did anything to even keep the M3 close to the P-car.

Looks like the C2S might trap in the 116+ mph range stock. Quick car, lovely car, but over $100k decently equipped now is insane.

OBI_agent · 05-26-2009, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

Sorry, quite old news/comparison...

Officially official

....PDK is damn quick....I wish I could see a video of a normal Carrera 2 with PDK against M3 DCT

footie · 05-26-2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBI_agent

Officially official

....PDK is damn quick....I wish I could see a video of a normal Carrera 2 with PDK against M3 DCT

If both are stock then I would guess the distance you see here between the C2S with PDK and the tuned M3 with DCT would be a good example of how that race would go.

It's just a shame those awful buttons are standard.

devo · 05-26-2009, 06:15 PM

Holy shxx Batman, Gustav created a video of a Porsche beating a BMW, say it's not so!

mixja · 05-27-2009, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

The M3 DCT is barely, and I mean barely faster than the OLD Porsche 911S in a straight line.
The M3 DCT traps around 113 mph stock, the old C2S did 112+.
The regular Carrera with PDK out accelerated the M3 DCT in a recent Car and Driver road test.

It's no surprise the more powerful Carrera S would put a few car lengths on it.

That Kelleners tune for the M3 must suck though, doesn't seem like it did anything to even keep the M3 close to the P-car.

Looks like the C2S might trap in the 116+ mph range stock. Quick car, lovely car, but over $100k decently equipped now is insane.

That 911 C2S PDK is very quick, it's beaten heaps of other higher powered cars...IIRC the M5 touring with 507HP only beat it by a couple of car lengths...

That same modified M3 DCT beat C63 so I don't think the tune sucks...

ersin · 05-27-2009, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footie

Exactly, I have driven the new PDK and compared to the M3 I can't feel the jerk at all, just buttery smooth shifts with maximum effect.

Yeah, but you're gonna miss the DCT low speed hesitation.

Driver72 · 05-28-2009, 04:45 PM

Have they run a stock M3 DCT vs a stock C63 AMG?

M3 Montreal · 05-28-2009, 07:47 PM

The new 911s with PDK is the car I would upgrade to next after the M3.

I absolutely LOVE that car both performance and looks and it has back seats that I need for the baby seat...

OBI_agent · 05-28-2009, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footie

If both are stock then I would guess the distance you see here between the C2S with PDK and the tuned M3 with DCT would be a good example of how that race would go.

It's just a shame those awful buttons are standard.

I dunno man. Some tunes just mess it up for you. Maybe this DCT wasnt running properly.
Anyway, it's guaranteed that PDK is damn quick with a added bonus of being smooth .

About the buttons, check this out. Apparently Gemballa is offering to replace those "buttons'' with F1 type paddle shifters. If I ever get the money to buy a PDK equipped Carrera, I think this is a must mod for me.

Those buttons for gears are now replaced with buttons for horns

shahsk30 · 05-29-2009, 12:59 AM

Carrera S

SoreHead · 05-29-2009, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBI_agent

I dunno man. Some tunes just mess it up for you. Maybe this DCT wasnt running properly.
Anyway, it's guaranteed that PDK is damn quick with a added bonus of being smooth .

About the buttons, check this out. Apparently Gemballa is offering to replace those "buttons'' with F1 type paddle shifters. If I ever get the money to buy a PDK equipped Carrera, I think this is a must mod for me.

Those buttons for gears are now replaced with buttons for horns

Thank God they don't make you buy it in poxy tuners red.

amgthis · 05-29-2009, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBI_agent

I dunno man. Some tunes just mess it up for you. Maybe this DCT wasnt running properly.
Anyway, it's guaranteed that PDK is damn quick with a added bonus of being smooth .

About the buttons, check this out. Apparently Gemballa is offering to replace those "buttons'' with F1 type paddle shifters. If I ever get the money to buy a PDK equipped Carrera, I think this is a must mod for me.

Those buttons for gears are now replaced with buttons for horns

I like it thick

tolis · 05-29-2009, 09:47 AM

flag video

:thum bdown

yemenmocha · 06-05-2009, 03:04 AM

I'm upset we have this video everywhere and not one with the STOCK m3. That would be interesting.

+1 with the others about putting arguments to rest. Porsche vs. m3 are not comparable cars in terms of performance, practicality, and price. Different leagues.

spearfisher · 06-05-2009, 09:05 AM

I thought the M3 would have done better with the mods, ecu and exhaust did not do much for the M3

BK · 06-05-2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

Have they run a stock M3 DCT vs a stock C63 AMG?

Not a stock M3, but have you seen:

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Driver72 Brigadier General 325 Rep 4,484 Posts Drives: 335i - to new owners now. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	The M3 DCT is barely, and I mean barely faster than the OLD Porsche 911S in a straight line. The M3 DCT traps around 113 mph stock, the old C2S did 112+. The regular Carrera with PDK out accelerated the M3 DCT in a recent Car and Driver road test. It's no surprise the more powerful Carrera S would put a few car lengths on it. That Kelleners tune for the M3 must suck though, doesn't seem like it did anything to even keep the M3 close to the P-car. Looks like the C2S might trap in the 116+ mph range stock. Quick car, lovely car, but over $100k decently equipped now is insane. Last edited by Driver72; 05-26-2009 at 01:26 PM..
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