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02-20-2013, 04:41 AM | #45 |
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yeah i totally agree thats a good idea for the wheels...id need to borrow OEm set bc i dont have them anymore...anyone wanna let me borrow a set wrapped in PSS? either that or Manari06 will have to come and do this for the taping and i just enjoy the fun
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Agreed, but I still think in the end we will just do it with your offset. I don't think this will make a life altering decision in the comparison.
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Concur that the only valid comparison is to reduce the variables and to do that both cars need to run a baseline and then run both tunes. There are guys out there, probably very few, that have both tunes. They just need to come out and run a comparison.
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Once stock vs stock is established equal than the cars can essentially be considered equal enough. Throw a tune on each car and hit the gas. Again if it comes down to that tiny of a difference than the test shows they are equal. If one car pulls than what other factor could it be if stock runs are equal? Nothing, so it will tell you which tune is making the most usable power. Enough said |
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OMG, this is sooo pointless. First of all the 2 cars you are using are too different to create a controlled enviornment to show any sort of comparable difference. Second, power wise we are talking peanuts. Less than peanuts.
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It has been proven time after time that different cars respond differently to the exact same mods. I have never seen two exact dyno curves from two different cars yet. Yes they will be similar but the software is going to make different numbers on different cars. All I was trying to do is eliminate yet another one of the variables by suggesting that both cars run the same wheel and tire setups. If you think this test will prove anything without running the both tunes on both cars than go ahead and think it. I work on engines for a living and I can tell you that when running up two different (mechanically exact) engines on the dyno the numbers are never the same even thought technically they should be! |
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If two cars run side by side in their curred modified specs than simply flashing a tune on each will not change the way the mods run on a car. Of course nothing is absolutely exact but if both cars are catless, have dct and are roughly the same weight, use the same fuel etc. Run stock and are evenf. Then the tune will simply supplement the car and you will get a darn good idea of which tune is faster if one car outruns the other.
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I second the motion for swapping tunes on the same car. Having two car, different tune on each car creates far too many variables to consider. The ideal scenario would be 1 car, swap tunes, dyno, then VBOX.
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ok people just to say it again...we are in no way shape or foem pros, we just wanna see how 2 ///M3s with the exact mods (except for wheels/tire size) perform when stacked again another with just another tune...are the gonna run along side like my previous stock M3 did with his? or is on tuned car going to outshine the other drastically?...thats all we wanna know...is there something different with the BPM and ESS tune? who knows, but thats what we are looking for...and if one of us is a little ahead of the other then so be it both the tunes are along the same lines and worth their money...this is just for fun...We have the spring coming up with the Autobahn we are looking for some fun haha
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Interesting idea, but BMRLVR is 100% correct in stating that the results won't mean anything. Even with an identical mod list and the same tune the cars would likely be a few hp apart... I doubt there is more variance in the power of those tunes than standard dyno error.
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