Ready to move to R-Comp, maybe

Kunman · 06-29-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebringjetta

i love the nt01 so much i picked up 3 sets!!!!!! i also ordered a set of RS-3 version2 for street use yesterday. wondered how they will feel compared to the orig version

please provide a long term review of the RS3V2 tires

been waiting for months for a review.

Sebringjetta · 06-29-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kunman

please provide a long term review of the RS3V2 tires

been waiting for months for a review.

I sure will sir. i run nt01 on the track but i plan on swapping the rs-3 for a session to see the difference.

1MOREMOD · 06-29-2014, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebringjetta

I sure will sir. i run nt01 on the track but i plan on swapping the rs-3 for a session to see the difference.

Don't think you will like them back to back with nt01s. I didn't with ad08s.

Sebringjetta · 06-29-2014, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Don't think you will like them back to back with nt01s. I didn't with ad08s.

most likley.. but for street i think they will be perfect espc. with the new tread wear

s4one · 06-29-2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebringjetta

I sure will sir. i run nt01 on the track but i plan on swapping the rs-3 for a session to see the difference.

RS3 are good tires no doubt but after the first or 2nd trackday they drop significantly in regards to grip. I was told that they are a time attach tires so i guess its really only good for the first couple maybe few times.

I will try Nt-O1 next. Is there a place that will heatcycle them for me first before I take delivery? I may just get them via my shop but not sure if there are stores online that offer that besides tirerack but they dont sell nt-01

FormulaMMM · 06-29-2014, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by s4one

RS3 are good tires no doubt but after the first or 2nd trackday they drop significantly in regards to grip. I was told that they are a time attach tires so i guess its really only good for the first couple maybe few times.

I will try Nt-O1 next. Is there a place that will heatcycle them for me first before I take delivery? I may just get them via my shop but not sure if there are stores online that offer that besides tirerack but they dont sell nt-01

www.performancetread.com (Jim). Don't need to heatcycle them. Talk to Jim.

Kunman · 06-29-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by s4one

RS3 are good tires no doubt but after the first or 2nd trackday they drop significantly in regards to grip. I was told that they are a time attach tires so i guess its really only good for the first couple maybe few times.

I will try Nt-O1 next. Is there a place that will heatcycle them for me first before I take delivery? I may just get them via my shop but not sure if there are stores online that offer that besides tirerack but they dont sell nt-01

Discounttiredirect does, but NT01 for my size at least is on back order.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...HeatCycling.do

s4one · 06-29-2014, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FormulaMMM

www.performancetread.com (Jim). Don't need to heatcycle them. Talk to Jim.

Yea after doing some reading, seems like the nt01 is a tire that doesn't require heat cycling.

okusa · 06-29-2014, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

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Originally Posted by FormulaMMM

I drove from one coast of FL to the other for an event with NT01s. Never again.

Easiest thing really is to change out at the track. Gives you a set of wheels for the ride home if something goes wrong as well (has happened to me more than once). One of my NT01s picked up a nail at the track last week. Would have been stranded.

Yep I trailer and bring spares or other full set. Got caught in Down pour once on drive home with nt01s made me about shit my pants.

R888 + rain is an even scarier experience. Tried that once. Nearly died several times.

s4one · 06-30-2014, 10:57 AM

How does the Nt-01 perform in 90+ temp? Does grip fall off at mid day as the day gets hotter? Does the tire get greasy at all?

Thanks,

Golddots · 07-07-2014, 01:23 AM

I've used the ra1 and nitto rii 555. They are similar to nt01.
In a longer session if I push hard they can get greasy but it is a gradual degrade. Backing off a tenth or two for a couple laps get them back to temp. I would not worry about overheating them coming from the rs3.
This was on a mostly stock c5 z06.

I agree with what the others said: the nitto/toyo never really heat cycle out. Run them until they're corded.

The HACK · 07-07-2014, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kunman

what other r comps are mild mannered like nt01? R888?

The Maxxis RC-1 is very similar to the NT01 in feel/lifespan. Obviously more grip.

FormulaMMM · 07-07-2014, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The HACK

The Maxxis RC-1 is very similar to the NT01 in feel/lifespan. Obviously more grip.

Equal lifespan to NT01 on those you think? I might give them a try next. Something different.

The HACK · 07-07-2014, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FormulaMMM

Equal lifespan to NT01 on those you think? I might give them a try next. Something different.

Yes. The set I'm running has had a few heat cycle on them already (got them as take-offs from a club racer) and they're every bit as sticky as brand new NT-01s, if not more. I've put at least another 1/2 dozen heat cycles on them and they're still very consistent. I fully expect them to last as long as the NT-01s based on the wear so far.

s4one · 07-07-2014, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The HACK

Yes. The set I'm running has had a few heat cycle on them already (got them as take-offs from a club racer) and they're every bit as sticky as brand new NT-01s, if not more. I've put at least another 1/2 dozen heat cycles on them and they're still very consistent. I fully expect them to last as long as the NT-01s based on the wear so far.

Nice, I think I will give nt-01 a try first then move to RC-1 after.

CSBM5 · 07-08-2014, 07:07 AM

Maxxis is a new name to me, but their website implied they've been around for decades. A little searching provided the real company name: Cheng Shin. NOW I know the tire manufacturer...I used to run Cheng Shin knobbies on my MX bike back in the mid-1970s.

They were actually decent tires at the time.

OP: re NT-01 -- excellent tire to switch to. Very forgiving, will howl near/at the limits like a street tire unlike more serious R-comps, watch your hot pressures. The tire will start to skate and shudder if you let them get too high. I usually target 36psi hot with the M3 on 275/35-18/10" all around.

M3 Esq · 07-08-2014, 07:59 AM

Who drives NT-01s to the track? Do they kick up rocks or debris at your paint and cause chips?

CSBM5 · 07-08-2014, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by M3 Esq

Who drives NT-01s to the track? Do they kick up rocks or debris at your paint and cause chips?

They definitely kick up a lot more debris. I can hear it as soon as I leave the driveway...probably create some more road rash behind wheels.

Kunman · 07-08-2014, 09:06 AM

Racing Hard Compound Tires:
Nitto Nt01
Nitto Nt555R2
Toyo R888
Toyo RA1
Cheng Shin Maxxis RC1
Nankang NS 2R
Federal 595 RSR

missing anything?

okusa · 07-08-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kunman

Racing Hard Compound Tires:
Nitto Nt01
Nitto Nt555R2
Toyo R888
Toyo RA1
Cheng Shin Maxxis RC1
Nankang NS 2R
Federal 595 RSR

missing anything?

Hankook TD makes a hard compound.

Hujan · 07-08-2014, 04:41 PM

How big of a difference in performance is there between the NT05 and the NT01? The tread design looks similar, but I gather that the compound on the NT01 is stickier.

I am trying to decide what to go with on a set of dedicated track wheels. As a novice, I don't want to go with something super sticky out of the gate and therefore was planning to start with some NT05s and then go to NT01s someday. But if the difference in handling is relatively subtle and the NT01s are a better value in the long term, I might just go straight to them.

M3SQRD · 07-08-2014, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by okusa

Hankook TD makes a hard compound.

Do you know where you can buy TDs?

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s4one Private First Class 23 Rep 177 Posts Drives: 2013 e92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: California iTrader: (0)	How does the Nt-01 perform in 90+ temp? Does grip fall off at mid day as the day gets hotter? Does the tire get greasy at all? Thanks,
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Golddots Second Lieutenant 85 Rep 280 Posts Drives: e90 m3 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: nova iTrader: (1)	I've used the ra1 and nitto rii 555. They are similar to nt01. In a longer session if I push hard they can get greasy but it is a gradual degrade. Backing off a tenth or two for a couple laps get them back to temp. I would not worry about overheating them coming from the rs3. This was on a mostly stock c5 z06. I agree with what the others said: the nitto/toyo never really heat cycle out. Run them until they're corded.
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