Can helicopter pull me over for overspeed???

Seattle S65B40 · 04-15-2011, 02:32 PM

Title says it all.

Just the chopper. No ground trooper to consummate the stop. Thoughts?

I would think you could potentially still get a ticket from one in the mail, but I saw one fly overhead today when I was doing 15 over but I wasn't weaving or anything and i was never subsequently stopped. I'm just curious if I have something pleasant headed my way in the mail. I recognize this is based on jurisdiction, but curious to know if others have received a ticket this way.

BTW, this is another reason to opt against CF roof. Blatantly obvious from above that it's an E92 M3...

Also, can a higher end radar detector pick up a police aircraft, or do they just use measurement to obtain speed?

Thanks.

Brosef · 04-15-2011, 02:40 PM

nicely done.

mrkhanna16 · 04-15-2011, 02:47 PM

okay...im not gonna get a e92 with carbon fiber roof cuz im scared of helicopters haha

Seattle S65B40 · 04-15-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkhanna16

okay...im not gonna get a e92 with carbon fiber roof cuz im scared of helicopters haha

Haha - Not saying I would give mine up either. But if you're on the fence about CF roof, that's yet another argument against it.

DavidZ · 04-15-2011, 02:51 PM

Well, yeah, I guess if you had a steel roof they could pull you up with the big magnet, but with the CF roof there's nothing for the magnet to stick onto?

ihyln · 04-15-2011, 02:54 PM

just call your local air traffic control and ask if any police choppers are in the area. they will most certainly oblige.

Mace · 04-15-2011, 02:59 PM

A helo probably can't see your tag and he can't use radar on you unless he drops down right on the road. No, you have nothing to worry about but watch out for this guy:

mkoesel · 04-15-2011, 03:05 PM

Nope.

But! Helicopter *can* blow you up for shooting spree. So be careful.

I Wanna go Fast! · 04-15-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattle S65B40

Title says it all.

Just the chopper. No ground trooper to consummate the stop. Thoughts?

I would think you could potentially still get a ticket from one in the mail, but I saw one fly overhead today when I was doing 15 over but I wasn't weaving or anything and i was never subsequently stopped. I'm just curious if I have something pleasant headed my way in the mail. I recognize this is based on jurisdiction, but curious to know if others have received a ticket this way.

BTW, this is another reason to opt against CF roof. Blatantly obvious from above that it's an E92 M3...

Also, can a higher end radar detector pick up a police aircraft, or do they just use measurement to obtain speed?

Thanks.

Thank you! When I told my buddies that I was getting an E90 with sunroof so the choppers couldn't ID me they said I was crazy. Now who looks stupid?

OC3 · 04-15-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mace

A helo probably can't see your tag and he can't use radar on you unless he drops down right on the road. No, you have nothing to worry about but watch out for this guy:

ihyln · 04-15-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by E=mc2

In NJ, they have to inform you with road signs that you are entering an area that is monitored by helicopters, is that the case in WA? If so, didyou see a sign? In either case, the cops pull you over, they dont send you a ticket in the mail.

Those signs are a joke. In fact there's a about a 1 mile section down past exit 89 on the GSP that is supposedly "monitored" by aircraft. It's not a well known fact but those signs are only there to scare novice drivers.

///My5UV · 04-15-2011, 03:47 PM

They usually don't use radar, but instead known marks on the road, measure your time over the distance and then radio to a car/cycle ahead of you to pull you over.

Either they didn't notice you before you entered the timed section, were already timing somebody else, or maybe they were doing something more useful, like following a suspect from a real crime.

ersin · 04-15-2011, 04:57 PM

Radar detectors don't warn of aircraft enforcement. However, there are portable TCAS units that do work. Look up portable (also personal) TCAS.

Never heard of a helo pulling over someone by themselves. They usually work by radioing other LEOs on the ground. Here is one tip but make sure you really want to do this before doing it -- it may piss off the cops: the cop that gives you a ticket is the one that is supposed to have measured your speed. If you use this argument with a cop that has pulled you over as a result of aircraft enforcement then you might just end up having the helo land right next to you for the pilot to sign the ticket. A better strategy may be to go to court and use this argument in the courtroom. CAVEAT: This may or may not be true in your state.

Cheers.

Erhan · 04-15-2011, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidZ

Well, yeah, I guess if you had a steel roof they could pull you up with the big magnet, but with the CF roof there's nothing for the magnet to stick onto?

Well, given the current weight of the M3, I think it will pull the chopper down

ersin · 04-15-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by erhanh

Well, given the current weight of the M3, I think it will pull the chopper down

Not unless they use the latest military technology to locally invert the earth's gravitational field. Oh, wait. Can I mention that? Never mind.

Cheers.

Mark's M · 04-15-2011, 05:06 PM

Oh come on, seriously?? If you are, My5SUV is correct. There's no radar in the skies (much like there aren't any aliens sending down radar waves to control our minds) and the officer(s) above use the road markings to calculate speed which is relayed to the officer(s) below who write the ticket. BOTH are required in court if you choose to fight it.

ersin · 04-15-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark's M

...much like there aren't any aliens sending down radar waves to control our minds.

So, I can stop wearing my tin foil hat now?

Cheers.

OC Dealman · 04-15-2011, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mace

A helo probably can't see your tag and he can't use radar on you unless he drops down right on the road. No, you have nothing to worry about but watch out for this guy:

bruce.augenstein@comcast. · 04-15-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ersin

Not unless they use the latest military technology to locally invert the earth's gravitational field. Oh, wait. Can I mention that? Never mind.

Cheers.

Now that you've told us, you're going to have to kill us.

Bummer.

ooowowizstev · 04-15-2011, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mace

A helo probably can't see your tag and he can't use radar on you unless he drops down right on the road. No, you have nothing to worry about but watch out for this guy:

!

ersin · 04-15-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by E=mc2

Is this photoshop or real?

It's a shop. Everyone knows that CHP uses T-38s.

Cheers.

Seattle S65B40 · 04-15-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by I Wanna go Fast!

Thank you! When I told my buddies that I was getting an E90 with sunroof so the choppers couldn't ID me they said I was crazy. Now who looks stupid?

No CF roof on E90. Sunroof or not.

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Mace Second Lieutenant 2 Rep 239 Posts Drives: '11 E93 M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	A helo probably can't see your tag and he can't use radar on you unless he drops down right on the road. No, you have nothing to worry about but watch out for this guy:
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///My5UV Lurker 78 Rep 812 Posts Drives: YMB F80, SS E90 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Austin iTrader: (0)	They usually don't use radar, but instead known marks on the road, measure your time over the distance and then radio to a car/cycle ahead of you to pull you over. Either they didn't notice you before you entered the timed section, were already timing somebody else, or maybe they were doing something more useful, like following a suspect from a real crime. __________________
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ersin Brigadier General 126 Rep 4,144 Posts Drives: 17 YMB F80 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland iTrader: (1)	Radar detectors don't warn of aircraft enforcement. However, there are portable TCAS units that do work. Look up portable (also personal) TCAS. Never heard of a helo pulling over someone by themselves. They usually work by radioing other LEOs on the ground. Here is one tip but make sure you really want to do this before doing it -- it may piss off the cops: the cop that gives you a ticket is the one that is supposed to have measured your speed. If you use this argument with a cop that has pulled you over as a result of aircraft enforcement then you might just end up having the helo land right next to you for the pilot to sign the ticket. A better strategy may be to go to court and use this argument in the courtroom. CAVEAT: This may or may not be true in your state. Cheers. __________________ 2017 F80 YMB.
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Mark's M Lieutenant Colonel 617 Rep 1,820 Posts Drives: 2016 M3 Individual Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stoney Creek, ON iTrader: (3)	Oh come on, seriously?? If you are, My5SUV is correct. There's no radar in the skies (much like there aren't any aliens sending down radar waves to control our minds) and the officer(s) above use the road markings to calculate speed which is relayed to the officer(s) below who write the ticket. BOTH are required in court if you choose to fight it.
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