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03-24-2008, 01:11 PM | #661 |
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I guess I was thinking along the lines of an It's a Wonderful Life type ending, where we all march into the dealership with the money and say "here! now give him his car!" hehe With the CEO's also making speeches about how this happened and that it won't happen again, and the whole thing making the national network news. Just seems like that would be the one situation where nobody comes out bitter.
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03-24-2008, 01:15 PM | #662 |
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Hey, wanted to spread your story, the link is posted on VW Vortex (very large VW/Audi, et al web site).
Hope you get you car from the scumbag stealership. Mike already at three pages... http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3750872 Last edited by MoreA4; 03-24-2008 at 01:19 PM.. Reason: update |
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Good job, forgot about that site...HUGE site...probably a lot of crossover to a lot of multiple makes owners that would now think a second before buying from this dealership. Eric Wife: 05 Passat TDI My daily: 94 E420 Benz |
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03-24-2008, 01:22 PM | #665 | |
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Good rehash of this thread. I think a lot of people are interested in the outcome based solely upon the "stealership" getting what's coming to them. |
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03-24-2008, 01:30 PM | #667 |
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Sorry its taken so long to post a update. The site is very slow (understandably). This morning, BMW of Lincoln has agreed to sell me the car at a price of 60K, with certain conditions. I'll be going over the conditions with the dealership tommorow, and I hope to have everything finalized by tommorow afternoon.
But one thing that I would like to make everyone aware of is, BMW of Lincoln is proactively working to correct the situation that they screwed up. And yes, they screwed up big time, no doubt about that.They are trying to do right, so please don't harass the dealership right now. No phone calls, threats, emails or fake sales calls. That said, I would just like to take a step back for a moment. The past few days have been insane. Just thinking about what has transpired, leaves you speechless really. How did this thing go from a M3post.com rant to what it became today? In 3 days, the site amassed 650+ comments and 200,000 page views, with people posting from all around the world, lending their support and help. Thats people I dont even know! Amazing stuff, and probably the coolest thing I have ever been part of, leveraging the internet in a way that I have never seen before. People I have never met, making calls on my behalf, contacting automotive sites, supplying information, just doing anything and everything possible to help out. Lets do it again sometime, I hope to be there for someone when they are in need. Thanks guys, there are good people in this world after all. I'll post again tommorow. Regards Ken ArtPE bolmedias14 mkoesel mooseman Laszlo yacoub JerseyBeemer acidtrunks rickc Xcellere rainsux ideliver DJ9 Technic kingdaviswaco na335i tturedraider moog55 erdoran e46e92love ganjadude viobruin enlightenment botchka NavNurs dgb2 The Peregrinus skierman64 UsedCarSalesmanwCombOver zavigm Disinterested Observer Doesn't Drive M308CAH stlmini Brookzors italy430 AML Spazdoc TimVFR LilRedGXP ybbiz34 Los Angeles RX7owner Revin9k mduval1988 Huecifer BlackJetE90 bradbmw GalaxyGreySi Last E92 M3 Epacy drkbrent normtrum C4talyst Ron21 imafrk nightkhan landon305 ShakeR SteveMondragon ChrisFastM3 steve40704 ncoday Illan joes3series TheAcAvenger smmille lucid homerjsimp Avenger Garissimo Keto D0WNxiSH1FT 08fbpSI MrFoof Manticorez JasenWFO sonofthor OC kid MelsM3 max4speed Samifumi Fyre Man djdorifto mimic shanks Adam_B czechchamp tiguy99 BlackStar tivs31 CSL-Fanatik IrvRobinson RacerRex ddsm3 FifthStreetz Bammered abuzzl23p runutzzzzz marcos M3aHOLIC84 RAC Brian W prova275 EmmEff Educated Junior Barnes paologaspar cngzsn hacman Stealth_M dlpruk ///MML redmtclimber takedown8 mdrobc13 RT8_M3 Jdebitjr Nucking Futs! smmmurf leewoods18 SteveLevin 88M3SanDiego orangebyke dommo_g anosa ozarkgolfer Chris_Lee BimmerBoyz nootrac22 Hankdoll buschy Jack28 achien ianbiz McLuVan knext21 SnowsM3 SmittyNC prrbill bodies_from_vent BMWridin89 Bettor FCTrs4 lazyhobo stormrider 31337 Simpoleca JThw8 kronzprinz yamazaho JEllis dab33d teritanz omerfar23 THE_PRO jgorman13 jm1234 cristios01 Angelus897 bear_2008 CaribooLou saaboteur Anonymous Dissent mrmcderm gobuffs iluvmycsx qortra GrFa lvwirelessguy OC 335i Salespunk fizzle SMSgt B yahtzee BogoKi hakaida442 CallMeDPit briambran freakguy54321 Mfive awesomeness SBasinger wtfcorp bamafun HeDeservesTheCar Neu wontonjon E394KEN KL2DC John monsta JoeClothing Dave_H eurospek gundamfans timsev thevaliantknight tdicola evilsykoskitzo 89dub jeaguilar Gurevich8889 Night Hawk PhaseShift Indecent BMWBLOG.COM gerilc Stein ky_soldier MadDog hak87 Eichhörnchen Lil. Lucas eyemdbmw pharenx Bookem dunjee jasonintoronto motionmonk robb Minimad CoolAir CrownSeven tRas kgodfrey Mateo Happy13178 Stilig Greeney ucla1995 thetastelingers Glacked JS11 MrHarris Gig103 achenator MC Mo Murda FourOFour 420 Bambler e36_m3 moosepoop |
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03-24-2008, 01:33 PM | #668 |
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DUDE CONGRATS!!
I was just about to post that your story hit Fark.com: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comm...IDLink=3488356
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03-24-2008, 01:36 PM | #670 |
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Wow. This is one of THE coolest threads I have ever read. A group of perfect strangers all get together to help a fellow Bimmer lover who got the shaft. I salute you all. I love it when the good guy wins! Well done.
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03-24-2008, 01:37 PM | #672 |
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One thing I am curious here is what is ebay's response to this. According to their fee page it looks like they are being defrauded out of a $1000 dollar commision here as well as the deal you are losing out on.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/fees.html Seems like you might be able to get some help here from thier lawyers. Fee's may also explain why they did not set a reserve price. Setting a reserve appears to incur a non-trivial cost ~700 dollars as opposed to $4 to list the item. If this were a cheap marketing stunt $4 is certainly within thier budget the $700 may not be. If they only had a few auctions running it probably would have been cheaper to cancel an auction that is doing poorly than setting a reserve for all your auctions. I see that as a lot more likely than being ignorant of the whole auction reserve process. |
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I used to practice law- contracts and stuff etc... US laws may differ from here (UK based laws are in effect where i am) but I think the fundamentals of contract law should be same if not logically connected.
What constitutes a contract? Offer, acceptance of the offer and consideration. Here, the offer was (in my view) the BIN price (or the reserve price had there been one). had dooma accepted the BIN price and paid the deposit (the consideration part) a valid and binding contract would have been concluded. However, dooma's bid was $60k (regardless of the fact that starting price was stated by the dealership). this IMHO was a counter offer that the dealership could accept or reject. In fact, every bid (below BIN/reserve) constitutes a counter-offer. this is known as "an invitation to treat". ie dealership is saying "make me an offer" if you don't accept my BIN/reserve price. further, subject to standards that vary from country to country, and state to state, the Header and "No reserve" are Advertising Puffs that ought to be taken with a pinch of salt. There's a saying - Let the Buyer Beware. I believe even eBay's "WIN" notice is merely saying that "you were the highest bidder when the auction ended". That said, given the level of attention this is receiving + US cyberlaws that i dont know, it won't surprise me if the dealership caves in. Once again, my caveat here is that US laws may differ from my knowledge of Contract Law. Food for thought only... cheers EDIT - was typing this post when dooma posted the update, so now that it's almost over - who cares?!!! ha ha... Congrats dooma, well done! Last edited by edlms; 03-24-2008 at 02:08 PM.. |
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03-24-2008, 01:39 PM | #676 |
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Dooooomaaaa
I literally check this thread every five minutes..... Congrats on getting the car, we all won with this situation!!!!! Hope this teaches the stealerships a lesson. E90POST FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-24-2008, 01:40 PM | #677 |
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I made my way over from this post on Nebraska board.
This dealership is roughly a 2 miles from my house, and would gladly stop into the dealership to see what's the situation is on this car. I haven't had any personal experience with Husker Auto Group, but I have had to try and buy vehicles from their used lot in the past and had to walk out on them because they are very tough to work with. If there is anything I could help you with shoot me an email. |
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Finally chiming in, i've been following for a while now... Although i'm certainly glad they have finally decided to do the right thing, you never know with these guys. These conditions may be absurd, so i really hope you havent agreed to accept whatever conditions they have to add to the "deal" to make things work. The only conditions that should apply are the ones that were stated in the auction. Namely, if the auction didnt state that you have to buy an extended warranty, or paint protection, or lo-jack, then you still shouldn't have to just because they are now finally willing to work with you (if you had plans to get all these anyways, then i guess it really doesn't matter any more)... but whatever it is, if anything, that they're trying to pull, don't let them force you in to any add-ons you have no interest in. Good job in staying persistent and I hope all works out as YOU planned it, and not as they have planned for you. |
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Ken- Way to go buddy!
Please ensure you have someone (legal background) review any and all stipulations the dealer may require for this deal to close. The last thing you need, are any additional/hidden contigencies upon completion of the sale. I think it goes w/o saying, but I would also stay clear of servicing your vehicle there; depsite the limited dealers in your area.
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He is lucky and he also deserves it. I am very very pleased with the outcome of this story. It is truly amazing. Good luck Dooma, we can't wait to see you take delivery of the car and post a review on it!
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