Anyone seen the new 09 TL's

bimmerbimmer · 09-18-2008, 09:43 AM

Three words:

"Trying TOO Hard" !!

E90SLAM · 09-18-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by m3power13

True, but having to incorporate twin kidneys, the hof kink, twin headlights, etc really doesnt have to define or limit the design direction. BMW has a loyal following because their cars have an identity and design direction. "BMW" is a brand, a lifestyle, a culture, for all those reasons. "Acura" is a Jap car company that produces reliable cars. A small percentage of people will buy Acura's all of their life. People drive/own BMW's until they die. Audi and Mercedes have created a similar image/identity with their cars.

Agreed!

and don't forget Acura is a spinoff from Honda a decade or so ago for the US market (for luxury highend cars...)
and they can hardly compete with Lexus.....

Bimermanman · 09-18-2008, 09:53 AM

looks like a camry

f82phan · 09-18-2008, 10:03 AM

It looks like a Pontiac Atzec

2006e904Me · 09-18-2008, 10:08 AM

Not sure why they moved away from their 5 point signature grille (their version of the twin kidneys) that was their identity from around 2003 - 2007. I thought they had a respectable lineup then.

Don't know what the designer was smokin when he said "hey, I have an idea. How about a guillotine beak?"

E90 ANdy · 09-18-2008, 10:08 AM

the headlights look like they came from a camry, bleh. the car looks pretty damn ugly. however, every futuristic i guess.... looks like a concept car

rickston69 · 09-18-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m3power13

True, but having to incorporate twin kidneys, the hof kink, twin headlights, etc really doesnt have to define or limit the design direction. BMW has a loyal following because their cars have an identity and design direction. "BMW" is a brand, a lifestyle, a culture, for all those reasons. "Acura" is a Jap car company that produces reliable cars. A small percentage of people will buy Acura's all of their life. People drive/own BMW's until they die. Audi and Mercedes have created a similar image/identity with their cars.

Yep ~ branding is VERY important to give your product instant recognition. As for the new TL, it appears Acura designers have run out of ideas.

The previous models have been far superior IMO.

simp0man · 09-18-2008, 01:42 PM

Everything is fine except for the grill.

BradF · 09-18-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SoYank

It looks like it was designed by a Japanese cartoon animator.

I couldn't have said it better myself. It this some sort of practical joke? This isn't really their 2009 model, is it?

raceyBMW · 09-18-2008, 02:02 PM

Man they really messed it up IMO. Looks like someone punched the grill and gave it a fat lip. At least the 08's will have higher resale value now since fewer people will be buying this one most likely.

darkphantom · 09-18-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by e90phan

It looks like a Pontiac Atzec

you might be on to something there....

They've REALLY disappointed me....it looks like mash between the new accord and camry........

The previous 2 gens of TL's were nice! what happened here?

Year's_End · 09-18-2008, 02:09 PM

I never thought the previous gen TL was GREAT looking, but it was a hell of a lot better than this one.

islandbimmer · 09-18-2008, 03:21 PM

I didn't know Bangle left BMW for Honda/ Acura I've seen the front of the TL in person that chrome is hideous, can't imagine what a few rock chips would make that look like. The new accord coupe isn't too bad looking but it appears honda and GM are on a design collision course, getting hard to distinguish them apart. Mind you Audi is coming very close to looking BMW like. Even though the new TL has AWD drive the car has to be one of the ugliest designs to come out in years.

Year's_End · 09-18-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by islandbimmer

I didn't know Bangle left BMW for Honda/ Acura I've seen the front of the TL in person that chrome is hideous, can't imagine what a few rock chips would make that look like. The new accord coupe isn't too bad looking but it appears honda and GM are on a design collision course, getting hard to distinguish them apart. Mind you Audi is coming very close to looking BMW like. Even though the new TL has AWD drive the car has to be one of the ugliest designs to come out in years.

Don't knock Bangle.

ians · 09-18-2008, 03:47 PM

That ugly TL and the horrible chrome grill from the TSX are come from the great United State mighty design! Take a look on the JDM accord (TSX without the bottle cup opener), it looks 1000X better.

doinoyou79 · 09-18-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Choolgooz

The front kinda looks like a saturn.. yum.

that's the first thing i thought. i had an '04 TSX that i thought was a very good lookin' car. now? so sad...

kevinbahnz · 09-18-2008, 04:29 PM

I heard somewhere that it was an american design. don't know what he meant by that but it does look like some of the american cars we are beginning to see here in the states. I thought the 08 Type-s looked nice. I was actually considering that b4 the bimmer. but they didnt have AWD. Thank god I didnt wait for their AWDs to come out I would've missed out on the 0.9% financing and killed myself.

Neurorad · 09-18-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by scooby9

Honda has some crazy design ideas... All their cars look so funky now...

I guess they got tired of selling lots of cars.

akack79 · 09-19-2008, 12:16 PM

Interesting but have to see it in person prior to finalizing my

vAnt826 · 09-19-2008, 06:38 PM

You guys serious? I think it is unique and a right step into the future. At least they aren't trying to sell a car with cues from all the competitors *cough* Hyundai *cough*.

Car looks great and definitely not as boring as the old TL. This is a car young asian boys would beg their mothers for (great market I've heard)!

JimG328i · 09-20-2008, 01:04 PM

FUGLY!!!! I can't believe how ugly that car is. The previous body style was really sharp.

Year's_End · 09-20-2008, 01:25 PM

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You guys serious? I think it is unique and a right step into the future. At least they aren't trying to sell a car with cues from all the competitors *cough* Hyundai *cough*.

Car looks great and definitely not as boring as the old TL. This is a car young asian boys would beg their mothers for (great market I've heard)!

I gotta be honest, the Genesis stomps on the new TL. imo.

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