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View Poll Results: What brake cooling setup would you run on your car?
APEX duct only - I'll come up with my own backing plate solution 1 0.65%
APEX duct and backing plate for OEM brakes 113 73.38%
APEX duct and backing plate for a BBK 37 24.03%
My own ducts and APEX backing plates for OEM brakes 2 1.30%
My own ducts and APEX backing plates for a BBK 1 0.65%
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      01-31-2011, 02:54 PM   #23
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Full kit bbk please!
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So far I'm the only one that just wants the backing plates. I will be taking the hose out after each event so I don't need a clean duct solution just the plates. Preferably ones that screw into the existing points for the dust shield.
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Forgot to add, both parts should be compatible with 3" hose.
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Will these still work with the OE BMW splitters? If so I would like to purchase a kit ASAP! the ABS ducts are super clean, I want them now!!
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I hope the plates will be cheaper than this

http://store.bimmerworld.com/carbon-...px?Thread=True
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Forgot to add, both parts should be compatible with 3" hose.
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Will these still work with the OE BMW splitters?
If you're talking about the splitters that goes on only the corners, then yes it should still work fine. I can't find a photo of a car with those, that is clear/bright enough under the bumper to show this off. If you have them and you can clearly see that black under tray section still up front then you can mount the ducts without any obstructions.
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It looks like the splitters block some of the black under tray, thats why I asked the question. Also are your "backing" plates similar to the ones in the link posted above?
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It looks like the splitters block some of the black under tray, thats why I asked the question. Also are your "backing" plates similar to the ones in the link posted above?
They will not be carbon, and the wheel bearing will not need to be removed in order to install it.
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+1 for a full kit for bbk (ducts plus backing plates). I'd buy today if they were available.
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About time someone is getting this to market. I think the stock brakes will be just fine with proper pads and ducting.
I sent you a pm.
Definitely. If woefully underbraked Hondas can do it (it being race pace for an hour) with OE brakes, good pads and ducting, so can an M3.
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They will not be carbon, and the wheel bearing will not need to be removed in order to install it.
I know this is a dumb question considering your reputation for producing quality parts,

but what might the dust shields be made of and will it be up to the heat generated on a brake intensive track?
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The more I look into the whole brake cooling idea the more I want! I will buy a complete kit today for full price, I just cant deal with anymore fade!
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Excellent news! Cheaper, easier to install, and no performance compromise. Sounds like a win/win
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They will not be carbon, and the wheel bearing will not need to be removed in order to install it.
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The more I look into the whole brake cooling idea the more I want! I will buy a complete kit today for full price, I just cant deal with anymore fade!
If you want to fix your fade issue get some ss lines and a good brake fluid. You will be pleasantly surprised at how much this will make a difference.
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If you want to fix your fade issue get some ss lines and a good brake fluid. You will be pleasantly surprised at how much this will make a difference.
SS lines will improve pedal feel, and brake fluid will exceed the limits of the pad, so little will change, but it's obviously a cheap improvement.

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I know this is a dumb question considering your reputation for producing quality parts,

but what might the dust shields be made of and will it be up to the heat generated on a brake intensive track?
The plates will be either Aluminum or thinner walled stainless steel. Both forms would be fulled anodized. We haven't made a final call on this yet. We're not looking for feedback on which material to use, as customers instantly assume the aluminum setup would be lighter, but it has to be thicker, and there are heat issues to deal with. We'll be making the martial decision based on what is best for this application as we continue to finalize the part.

The idea, just like with the ABS ducts, is that a fortune spent savings onces of weight is not where your money should be spent.
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I would definitely go SS in this situation, aluminum could get brittle from thermal cycling at the mounting bosses, and I'm sure you're not planning on using casting for something that is otherwise so thin? SS will too but it's a lot stronger and more ductile to begin with, 304 would probably work and like you said you're talking ounces here.
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I agree with your approach on the backing plates. The weight savings would be diminimus. Reliability/durability is paramount in this application, as I would presume all of these kits would be purchased with the intent of using them hard.
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I already have the lines, pads and fluid. This would be the icing on the cake for me! Please sell me a kit asap
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Would there be a chance to put some sort of mesh to prevent debris/garbage from going in the ducts? I think there's quite a few of us here that use their car as dual-duty transport. I would hate to suck in garbage on a regular basis.
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