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      04-12-2018, 02:44 PM   #1
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Are E90/92 M3s reliable after 100,000 miles?
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      04-12-2018, 02:54 PM   #3
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      04-12-2018, 02:59 PM   #4
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Hello everyone reading this thread.. You can totally skip this part of the thread, i just wanna share a little bit about my situation. I dont even know where to start. So, growing up i was never super into cars because my mother played the whole "mechanics make shit" card on me whenever my future was brought up in conversation. Nonetheless, ever since Need For Speed: Most Wanted, the E46 M3 was my dream car, then the E92 M3 took that spot. Fast forward to 2014, I was involved in a car accident that left me with a slipped disc in my neck. Won the lawsuit 2 years later and immediately went and bought myself a Titanium Silver 2010 E92 335i xDrive with 62k miles because E46 M3s were the same price but i felt they were getting too old to daily and E90/92 M3s were still $25k+ for one with <80k miles. ABSOLUTELY LOVED my 335i, wasnt in love because it wasnt an M car but i was proud. 2 years later, here we are in January 2018. I started school for Automotive Technology, I swapped the rims for a set of 18" Sparco Pro Corsa rims with performance all-season run flats, I put in a new water pump, thermostat, brakes, rotors, head gasket and serpentine belt at 85k miles. I just recently cleaned the intake manifolds and i was getting ready to buy H&R Sport Springs and clean my Vanos Solenoid. This is the first car ive ever so involved with and it saddens me to say that last week it was taken away from me by a drunk driver.... the car was parked at my friends house on a beautiful Sunday afternoon while we were hanging by the grill, drunk guy comes up the hill doing 80mph, loses control around the corner due to understeer and hits my car on the other side of the street.

Sorry for the essay guys. So I just got word from the insurance adjuster, my car is officially totaled. just waiting to hear how much they are going to give me for my cars value. So now that im car shopping, I want my next car to be an M car. I'm looking at E60 M5s, E63 M6s, E46 and E90/92 M3s with all kind of mileages under $20,000. I plan to daily my next vehicle. I reside in Connecticut so hills and snow are a problem but that does not phase my decision on getting an M car. So I'm in need of advice on what to look for in all of these cars and what to stay away from, what repairs have been made to look for? Are E90/92 M3s reliable after 100,000 miles?

again so sorry for the essay.
Sorry to hear about your accident and your 335i loss.

There are tons of threads discussing E92 M3's reliability. In layman's terms though:

S65 is the engine we have in our E92 M3 which is basically the same engine that can be found in E60 M5 and E63 M6 - the main diff being that the M3 has V8 while the later 2 have the V10. There are other minor changes - no of air filters, oil sump and so on but for the sake of reliability, they are pretty much same.

Important components that can go wrong in the S65/S85: Rod Bearings, Throttle Actuators. People with more knowledge than me can chip in more.
Otherwise, the E92 platform is pretty solid - I have heard that the Evap goes in the E92 but not an issue that can decommission your car.

The E46 M3 has the S54 engine: The multi-step Vanos is the one thing that I have read goes wrong. The other one is the subframe going - the diff can just drop if this happens. You can get the subframe reinforced in the 1500-3k mark depending on the shop and the kit.

Looking at your budget I would suggest going with the E46 M3. But the E92 is a better DD - more creature comforts and so on.

I reckon the E46 easier to work on as well - again, more experienced DIYers on this forum will have more idea.

Welcome.
Hope to see you in an M soon.
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Thanks so much, appreciate the info
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If you are looking for decent specimens of e60 m5, e63 m6 or e9x m3, you are going to want to increase the budget to at least $25k but around $30k is where you want to be to find a well cared for specimen. The e93 m3 has quite variable prices, but I'm not sure about that one. I still don't think you could find a decent one for $20k or less.

If the budget must be $20k or under, the e46 m3 is where you want to be searching. Running costs for these cars are highish though, especially if the m3 will be your daily. Remember that 1 rotor for my e90 m3 is ~ $300 aftermarket. OEM is even more. Just because the car is inexpensive to buy does not mean it is inexpensive to maintain.

As far as reliability, by all accounts if the car is maintained properly, they seem to be reliable past 100k but only time will tell..I sure hope so anyway. Mine has 56k on it but it's not my daily driver.

Sorry to hear about your bad luck with the 335
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Similar story to you, but it was the movie Taxi, with Jimmy Fallon and Queen Latifah that had me fall in love with the e46 M3 lol.

I bought my e46 at around $21k with 70k on the clock. I drove it 100k miles and really only did basic maintenance. Other than one bad tranny failure (aftermarket), the engine and car itself was super reliable as a daily. I miss that car. Sold it with 175k miles for $7k
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The e46 M3 also had rod bearing issues (although the failure rate wasn't particularly high), as well as rear subframe issues in the coupes. The e46 M3 convertibles had reinforced subframes, so this wasn't an issue. If you buy an e46, make certain that you look for tears in the rear subframe. If they are there, RUN away as fast as you can. If they are not there, and the chassis has not had reinforcements added, this is the first thing you should do.

My last car was an e46 M3.
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      04-13-2018, 02:10 PM   #9
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The e46 M3 also had rod bearing issues (although the failure rate wasn't particularly high), as well as rear subframe issues in the coupes. The e46 M3 convertibles had reinforced subframes, so this wasn't an issue. If you buy an e46, make certain that you look for tears in the rear subframe. If they are there, RUN away as fast as you can. If they are not there, and the chassis has not had reinforcements added, this is the first thing you should do.

My last car was an e46 M3.
Don't want to hijack the thread but curious - weren't the initial model's failures count pretty high? E46 had an actual official recall to take care of the rod bearings and thus my comment.
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I am the soon to be proud owner of a 2005 E46 M3! Will keep you guys posted soon.
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Congrats on the E46! I have an E92 M3 and love it but I want to add an E46 to the garage. I'm ok with a fixer upper as it will be a fun restoration project!
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