Looking to buy & I'm torn....6MT or DCT??

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by Lute

Actually it's not. It's a lifestyle choice.

The MT says: Step up partner and let's see what we can do in this car today. It may be beautiful, it may be ugly but whatever it is, we will do it together.

The DCT says: Let me handle this, why don't you just sit back and have another Big Gulp.

[pkimM3r]

Op is prob shopping audis by now.

Oh wait they have awd and skinny wheel bmw jokes lol.

[AirbusPilot]

NASCAR or Formula 1?

Choose your transmission accordingly.

[M3Captain]

Originally Posted by AirbusPilot

NASCAR or Formula 1?

Choose your transmission accordingly.

I am absolutely in awe of my DCT gearbox. I had a 6MT and now a DCT, and let me tell you the car is a whole 'nother animal. It should have come DCT only….

You can't even get a new GT3 with a manual gearbox…. they don't offer it anymore…. and there is a reason. The gearbox is just that amazing.

I'm sure BMW would love to go straight DCT as it will save production costs… they just offer the 6MT for those who really want it.

[e-solo]

Originally Posted by Law

Same god damn cow but different ways to experience it.
You want a Big Mac that tastes that same every single time & can be devoured super quick? Get DCT.
Don't mind a little work for a nice piece of steak? Get 6MT.

I like metaphors

I like them too. Got a chuckle out of that one.

It's no doubt the MT is a more pure racing culture. I chose DCT because the M is my daily driver and I don't track at all. I'm also very lazy and prefer the damn gearbox to do the work for me. I drove MT all my life, it's my time to relax and drink my damn big gulp and eat my Big Mac. Lol!!!

[Koldun]

Wow, a lot of little dicks with fragile egos in here.

The op by now probably decided to cut his losses and bought himself a nice KIA.

Originally Posted by Dashman

Driver error, misuse, abuse, etc. Can't pin this on MT

Yes, because everyone is perfect every time, particularly in stressful track situations, Or especially those service techs at your dealership that drive your car, I'm sure they execute fluid shifts every time to put the DCT to shame.

I weep on the inside every time I see a tech or valet grinding out a MT.

And all this talk of is the gearbox shitty or is it the previous driver or that one time you moved it when you were drunk, etc. etc., I thought the MT was the durable option?

Originally Posted by e-solo

I like them too. Got a chuckle out of that one.

It's no doubt the MT is a more pure racing culture. I chose DCT because the M is my daily driver and I don't track at all. I'm also very lazy and prefer the damn gearbox to do the work for me. I drove MT all my life, it's my time to relax and drink my damn big gulp and eat my Big Mac. Lol!!!

Yep, the main advantage of the DCT as far as I can tell is not so much the performance, but the convenience of letting it do the work when you're stuffing your face or are fucked up. I don't eat in my car, personally, but yeah... it's the little things.

I don't know about "more pure racing culture", though. It is certainly more raw and old school, but racing is a as much a technology race as one of driving skill, and most hardcore race cars are running automatic transmissions. The MT is more about the Fast&Furious culture if anything, what with their 30-gear gearboxes.

And while we're comparing transmissions to lifestyle choices and steaks, how about Asian massage parlors? The DCT finishes the massage with a perfectly executed handjob, the MT driver pushes the girl away and jerks off himself.

[GreeKon]

Originally Posted by Koldun

And while we're comparing transmissions to lifestyle choices and steaks, how about Asian massage parlors? The DCT finishes the massage with a perfectly executed handjob, the MT driver pushes the girl away and jerks off himself.

It's so true...I do it way better than any girl ever could.


Best....Thread.....EVER!

[gazosnic]

i was in the same boat.

For me: DCT is better in traffic, straight line drag race, and on track
Manual is better for open roads where you can push the car

It was very close call, but I ultimately bought 6mt for the fear that DCT may get dull after the coolness effect wears off. Also I plan on keeping the car for a long time and I know fixing a manual trans will be MUCH cheaper. Also if technology advances in the next few years DCT could seem out of date.

There are alot of considerations and I think the positive is that either way i think they are both great transmissions with different attributes. If its a weekend car to just cruise around in for fun i'd get 6mt, if traffic or heavy track car, id get DCT.

Good luck! Its a great car either way.

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Always a good read ... this holiday weekend should add a few more pages to this thread.

Happy New Year to All you ///M Drivers

and

Safe and Happy Trails Always

be it MT or DCT

Be Safe

[jaehshim]

i'd always choose 6MT whenever there's an availability, especially for high end sports car like the M3 or Carrera

[Koldun]

Originally Posted by gazosnic

Also I plan on keeping the car for a long time and I know fixing a manual trans will be MUCH cheaper. Also if technology advances in the next few years DCT could seem out of date.

Being cheaper to fix I can see, but I never understood the out of date argument. Do you go without nav since in a few years it will be out of date? Why bother buying a performance car at all when the new cars will perform better? And all this from someone with a MT, the most dated piece of technology in these cars other than the wheel.

[e-solo]

Originally Posted by Koldun

Wow, a lot of little dicks with fragile egos in here.

The op by now probably decided to cut his losses and bought himself a nice KIA.

Yes, because everyone is perfect every time, particularly in stressful track situations, Or especially those service techs at your dealership that drive your car, I'm sure they execute fluid shifts every time to put the DCT to shame.

I weep on the inside every time I see a tech or valet grinding out a MT.

And all this talk of is the gearbox shitty or is it the previous driver or that one time you moved it when you were drunk, etc. etc., I thought the MT was the durable option?

Yep, the main advantage of the DCT as far as I can tell is not so much the performance, but the convenience of letting it do the work when you're stuffing your face or are fucked up. I don't eat in my car, personally, but yeah... it's the little things.

I don't know about "more pure racing culture", though. It is certainly more raw and old school, but racing is a as much a technology race as one of driving skill, and most hardcore race cars are running automatic transmissions. The MT is more about the Fast&Furious culture if anything, what with their 30-gear gearboxes.

And while we're comparing transmissions to lifestyle choices and steaks, how about Asian massage parlors? The DCT finishes the massage with a perfectly executed handjob, the MT driver pushes the girl away and jerks off himself.

Once in a while you get so hungry late night, you have to throw down the burger and fries or tacos. Try not to eat in the car for the most part.

I stand corrected on the pure racing culture thing. You described it much better with raw and old school. I agree!

Epic thread for sure! Hahahaha!

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by GreeKon

It's so true...I do it way better than any girl ever could.


Best....Thread.....EVER!

Just have her watch?

[M3-S65]

Originally Posted by Law

Plenty of seat time in both and will choose 6MT every single time.
It all depends on your preferences. Plenty of reasons to choose DCT: your wife drives it, 0-60 times, track times, comfort, smoothness, something new, tech factor. Drivers who choose 6MT feel the aforementioned factors are not enough to justify compromising the physical mechanical connection to driving a performance car. All preference.

Some like their beef grounded up and packed into a burger that can be picked up anytime by anyone and eaten within a few minutes. It's a fast meal, gets the job done, your kids love it, no regrets.
Others would rather have beef in the form of a steak at a dinner table with a fork and knife. It may take longer to eat, require more finesse, and be harder to find and justify, but the experience and feeling is just that much more rewarding.

I chose the steak.
Some people choose fast food.
Some people go back and forth.
Either way, as long as your appetite is adequately fulfilled with no regrets, that's all that matters.

What if you don't eat red meat?

[jtodd_fl]

Well, since the steak analogy seems to have gained some traction, allow me to offer a different perspective on it.

Your MT6'er is like the old school "dad" at the BBQ. Light a fire, throw it on. Usually it turns out great, occasionally, it get's a lil burnt or undercooked. The more you do it, the more often it turns out great. Brute force FTW.

Your M-DCT'er is like a trained chef. Careful measurements, precision. It is about consistent execution. Precision and consistency FTW.

Either way, you're eating a steak.

[e-solo]

Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

Well, since the steak analogy seems to have gained some traction, allow me to offer a different perspective on it.

Your MT6'er is like the old school "dad" at the BBQ. Light a fire, throw it on. Usually it turns out great, occasionally, it get's a lil burnt or undercooked. The more you do it, the more often it turns out great. Brute force FTW.

Your M-DCT'er is like a trained chef. Careful measurements, precision. It is about consistent execution. Precision and consistency FTW.

Either way, you're eating a steak.

I like that one.

Hear that you old dads, quit burning the damn steak. I will enjoy my perfectly cooked steak by my trained chef. We have a clear winner! Best analogy yet!

[GreeKon]

I'll keep my 6spd and buy a George Foreman Grill.

[e-solo]

Originally Posted by GreeKon

I'll keep my 6spd and buy a George Foreman Grill.

That goes against the premise. The old dad wants to keep the steak juicy, foreman grill will dry it out for sure.

[GreeKon]

This is making me hungry. I hate you all equally.

[e-solo]

Originally Posted by GreeKon

This is making me hungry. I hate you all equally.

[Powerslide]

I have had my e93 with DCT for over five years now and over 70k miles - I have been on vacation for a week and I still can't wait to get home to drive it - have NEVER gotten bored with DCT - so tranny choice is purely subjective - also never had a single mechanical issue with the DCT either.

[davesaddiction]

Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

Well, since the steak analogy seems to have gained some traction, allow me to offer a different perspective on it.

Your MT6'er is like the old school "dad" at the BBQ. Light a fire, throw it on. Usually it turns out great, occasionally, it get's a lil burnt or undercooked. The more you do it, the more often it turns out great. Brute force FTW.

Your M-DCT'er is like a trained chef. Careful measurements, precision. It is about consistent execution. Precision and consistency FTW.

Either way, you're eating a steak.

At least I'm actually the "dad" in your scenario, with the satisfaction of getting it right after years of practice at my craft.

With the flappy paddles, you might as well be in the passenger seat, telling your "chef" when to perform that perfect downshift.