Looking to buy & I'm torn....6MT or DCT??

[Koldun]

Originally Posted by Lute

Yep, theft deterent. Add it to the list

Unfortunately, for every thief thwarted, there will be five valets and BMW service techs grinding your gears.

[jtodd_fl]

Originally Posted by Koldun

Unfortunately, for every thief thwarted, there will be five valets and BMW service techs grinding your gears.

[Eau Rouge]

Originally Posted by Edward

First of all, wrong. MT is the wrong choice.

You guys are letting this bonfire burn out? I brought some more of the same wood.

The problem with manual transmissions is that it does nothing of use better than a DCT can. It's slower and as a human, I am much more prone to making a mistake while driving. When I hear an M3 accelerate and shift all slow without the crisp popping cutoff sound of the DCT, I get SO SAD that it's just another slower M3 that isn't what it could have been.

It'd be one thing if you guys were championing an old technology such as a record player that actually plays a format that no digital format could replicate. That's fine....analog sound is pretty epic when played through the right vacuum tubes.

But besides this "fun factor" of wanting to be a slave to your transmission, what about MT is better? I absolutely love that Porsche came out and shunned all of the relics out there who choose MT and said f*** off. The GT3 is too good to be mated to an outdated technology from decades ago.

Also, whoever said it above, don't kid yourself. DCT is not what F1 uses. Even the DTM M3 goes with a sequential gearbox instead of a dual clutch. I don't think any real racing series such as LMP1/2 GT/ DTM/F1/Indy/GP2/GP3/ETCC/WRC/ NASCAR* etc. uses dual clutch transmissions.

Also, in the case that whatever older car in question comes in a traditional planetary gear automatic vs a manual, I choose the manual every time. In that case, the MT is faster, as reliable and more fun than a slow shifting fully automatic bore-me-to-death gearbox.



*LOL

Funny post is funny.

Why do you see it as your mission to "inform" others that their preference isn't the best for them? We already have d-bags in D.C. doing the same thing and no one is sending them THANK YOU cards. I hope you're not expecting a card from anyone.

Good day.

[Lute__]

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by Eau Rouge

Funny post is funny.

Why do you see it as your mission to "inform" others that their preference isn't the best for them? We already have d-bags in D.C. doing the same thing and no one is sending them THANK YOU cards. I hope you're not expecting a card from anyone.

Good day.

I will not choose the automatic drift function when available neither lol.

[ManAndMachine]

Nothing like a perfectly executed heal toe maneuver

DCT is makes the car too easy to drive and gets boring after the initial high wears off.

Manual keeps to on your toes,if you know what i mean

I'm keeping this car till the wheels fall off,so the simplicity of the manual gives me piece of mind as well.

[edwinm3]

Originally Posted by Koldun

Unfortunately, for every thief thwarted, there will be five valets and BMW service techs grinding your gears.

Lol

[davesaddiction]

Looks like Seinfeld is Team DCT:

Q: Are you disappointed that Porsche has started to move away from manual transmission availability in some of their higher-end cars (911 turbos, GT3, etc.)? Or are you a big enough fan of the technology and the improved shift times (or just otherwise don't care) that you are ok with the PDKs?

A: Not disappointed. PDK is the future. If you've driven a great PDK, you'll get it.


I agree that PDK/DCT is the future, inevitably (although the C7 engineers apparently disagree).

I'll sure I'll own one in the future. Happily rowing my own for now...

[grantmax]

Originally Posted by Lute

Would not use valets as I never trusted them for a slew of reasons. BMW techs (when I was still using them) never had an issue driving a standard shift.

I guess things are quite different across the pond, as evidenced by this muppet who couldn't steal a standard shift car

What's a standard shift?

"Valet-only" places are quickly becoming the standard.

[Craigy]

Originally Posted by davesaddiction

Looks like Seinfeld is Team DCT:

Q: Are you disappointed that Porsche has started to move away from manual transmission availability in some of their higher-end cars (911 turbos, GT3, etc.)? Or are you a big enough fan of the technology and the improved shift times (or just otherwise don't care) that you are ok with the PDKs?

A: Not disappointed. PDK is the future. If you've driven a great PDK, you'll get it.


I agree that PDK/DCT is the future, inevitably (although the C7 engineers apparently disagree).

I'll sure I'll own one in the future. Happily rowing my own for now...

Hahaha yeah saw that on Jalopnik.

WE GOT SEINFELD ON OUR SIDE.

The M3 has one of the best dual clutch systems, so it's definitely worth a try.

[grantmax]

Originally Posted by Lute

Wikipedia is your friend

Huh? I've heard of encyclopedia.

Is this something from the Wikileaks scandal?

[grantmax]

Originally Posted by Lute

Judging by your "clever" response, I'm going to hit the library to research first thing tomorrow.

Maybe you meant Wifipedia? That would make more sense.

[spmd11]

Wow.. I wonder if the OP has had the time to read each post..

Anyhow, I own a 2008 e90 M3 with 6 speed and a 2013 e93 with DCT.

Here is how it goes down; there is no right answer. if I drive my 6 speed, I love it, but I miss the things I like about DCT. If I drive my DCT, I love it also, but I miss the things I like about 6 speed. If you have one, you long for the other..

The only therapy is to own one of each like I do. If you are not able to by 2 M cars, buy the first M that you are in love with and don't worry about the transmission cause both are awesome.

[Koldun]

Originally Posted by grantmax

Huh? I've heard of encyclopedia.

Is this something from the Wikileaks scandal?

Not sure if serious...

[BTB]

Originally Posted by spmd11

Wow.. I wonder if the OP has had the time to read each post..

Anyhow, I own a 2008 e90 M3 with 6 speed and a 2013 e93 with DCT.

Here is how it goes down; there is no right answer. if I drive my 6 speed, I love it, but I miss the things I like about DCT. If I drive my DCT, I love it also, but I miss the things I like about 6 speed. If you have one, you long for the other..

The only therapy is to own one of each like I do. If you are not able to by 2 M cars, buy the first M that you are in love with and don't worry about the transmission cause both are awesome.

I have a 6MT and I long for a 6MT But, mine's an E46 so not exactly the same comparison.

I'm sure DCT can be fun as well