Which exhaust? Ready to pull the trigger!

ADubM3 · 02-02-2010, 10:07 AM

I've been wanting to get an aftermarket exhaust (just axle back)
for a while now and below are my choices from all of the searching and reviews I've read on this forum. One thing I haven't found is a quick summary of the more popular systems in the order of Loudness. Can someone put these in the order of louder to calm and also some thoughts on the exhaust note based on your experience please?

I really don't expect much HP gains from an axle back exhaust so sound is the highest priority. (not too loud though) I'm open to all types of sound except the American muscle car sound. If I'm missing a system please feel to add to my list.

1.Eisenmann Race & 2. Sport
3.Remus Race & 4. Sport
5.AA
6.Meisterschaft GT & 7. HP
8.Gintani
9.RPI

Thanks for you help

H Bomb · 02-02-2010, 10:35 AM

Tons of sound clips and threads on sound and all this. a quick search will prob net you over 30 threads easy

you forgot the Dinan muffler

most sound deep below 4k and then they get an exotic pitch up after 4k. most. some have the muscle sound all the time. then the really expensive Kressing one is most F1 like from what i have heard

SV Concepts III · 02-02-2010, 12:21 PM

The best thing I can advise is to listen to clips, listen to them in person and if you can, drive or ride in the car. Exhausts are a very subjective upgrade and really depends on how loud or aggressive you want it. The exhausts you listed run the whole spectrum of sound output so it would be best to figure out what you want (super aggressive, more grumble, fairly quiet etc...) and then listen to the exhausts in person to be absolutely sure it's a sound you want.

ryan@ActiveAutowerke · 02-02-2010, 12:45 PM

The Active Autowerke E9X M3 Exhaust is made for performance as well as beauty.

Compare the designs and you will find out why Active Autowerke's Exhaust makes true power!

Active Autowerke Signature E9X M3 Exhaust

Eisenmann

Remus
[IMG]http://www.**********s.com/zoom_img/_1220027716.jpg[/IMG]

Meisterschaft GT

Gintani Exhuast

RPI

The Active Autowerke Signature E9X M3 Exhaust is the only exhaust in this comparison with the Signature Noise Cancellation Chamber (NCC) which cancels drone after 3K. Ask yourself what the quickest route between two points? A straight line is the answer! The straight through design is what makes the power. This exhaust enhances the sound of you M3 significantly as well as the power with a gain of 12 usable horsepower. The HP gains don't stop there. With the addition of the Active Performance Software, Performance Pulley, and X pipe the gains are above 25hp. Come and play with Power! PM if you have any questions on pricing.

King Tut · 02-02-2010, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADubM3

1.Eisenmann Race & 2. Sport
3.Remus Race & 4. Sport
5.AA
6.Meisterschaft GT & 7. HP
8.Gintani
9.RPI

Thanks for you help

Move the 2 race versions under the AA exhaust and your list is probably about correct for quiet to loud.

H Bomb · 02-02-2010, 12:50 PM

^
nice sales pitch but it still has some drone. the other make true power too

the Dinan has 0 drone at any rpm and makes true power

the AA is a nice system but it isn't the holy grail or anything

ModBargains.com · 02-02-2010, 12:56 PM

Listening to exhaust clips and in person is your best bet to make the decision on the exhaust system that is right for you. The Remus Sport exhaust system has been a popular choice among the community and can be loud when you need it to be!!!

SpencerM3 · 02-02-2010, 04:19 PM

I'd put the Eisenmann Sport and Akrapovic in there too towards the more calm level.

montreal red · 02-02-2010, 04:24 PM

for excellent value for money, i'd say remus... if not eisenmann sport or AA would be good too. all 3 are among the best in the business.

powertrip · 02-02-2010, 04:34 PM

Active Autowerke....your pathetic attempt at a sales pitch is what's wrong with this forum. You blab on and on about about how your exhaust's performance is superior.....PROVE IT!! Instead of attacking threads like a sharky used car salesperson why don't you try actually providing an insightful AND factual post??

ADubM3 · 02-02-2010, 06:32 PM

Wow! Thanks for all of your responses and feed back. I must say I have listened to MANY video clips of cars revving and doing drive byes but it's hard to see how loud each system is compared to one another. Nothing better than your experiences and thoughts. Your candid feed back is very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

WPBM3 · 02-04-2010, 08:26 PM

I just Installed Borla Cat back on my 2009 E90 M3, and I amvvery happy with ease of install, look and sound. $1300 from Turner.....on the loud end, but with a deep growl.

2009 E90 M3, AW with Black Leather, 6MT,sunroof delete, 50%tint, black grill, Turner pedal set, black powder coated 18"OEM rims with H&R 10/12mm spacers, Borla cat back exhaust

PunjabiM3 · 02-04-2010, 08:53 PM

If you decide on the Eisenmann Race I have mine up for sale.

MrHarris · 02-04-2010, 09:12 PM

If you're interested in a Remus Sport mine is up for sale.

Finnegan · 02-05-2010, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan@ActiveAutowerke

The Active Autowerke Signature E9X M3 Exhaust is the only exhaust in this comparison with the Signature Noise Cancellation Chamber (NCC) which cancels drone after 3K.

This is true--but the OP should know that this engine seems to deliver the most drone potential below and up to 3K RPM. Cruising on the highway and in a lot of situations puts you under 3K. I haven't heard the AA, but if it's designed to deal with drone above 3K that misses the mark IMO.

In fact, the only systems I've heard with minimal drone are the stock exhaust or Dinan. (Even stock has some drone about 2K). I'm sure there are others out there with lower drone levels (some of the TI systems come to mind as do the $$$$$ signs that go with them).

Dinan gets dinged because of fake tips, but it also uses Helzholtz chambers (like stock and AA) and the single tips are there for the very reason that even with a Helmhotz chamber the dual tip straight through design results will result in some level of drone.

The advice Nick@Jlevi SW gave is as good as it gets. Listen and drive a car with what you're thinking about on it. "Drone" is a subjective measure as is "loud but not too loud". Take your time and have fun.

e90M3joe · 02-05-2010, 09:56 PM

Hey gang- what about Supersprint- any opinions? seems like a quality product.....

asloudasitgets · 02-06-2010, 01:26 AM

how much are these systems?

Finnegan · 02-06-2010, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asloudasitgets@hotmail.co

how much are these systems?

In the 2k ballpark plus/minus 500. Deals to be had on used systems though, check for sale part of the forum.

Trier Germany · 02-06-2010, 02:54 AM

Out of all those exhaust you listed.

Go with AA I believe it's quality, price, fit, finish and sound is top notch!

You can't go wrong

Bob MG · 02-08-2010, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trier Germany

Out of all those exhaust you listed.

Go with AA I believe it's quality, price, fit, finish and sound is top notch!

You can't go wrong

Akrapovic.... you cant get better. Best sound, best performance, sounds like stock, looks like an OEM part, lightest etc etc. A bit expensive though

H Bomb · 02-08-2010, 06:18 AM

that was the lmao about his post. the drone that happens 90% of the time is below 3k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnegan

This is true--but the OP should know that this engine seems to deliver the most drone potential below and up to 3K RPM. Cruising on the highway and in a lot of situations puts you under 3K. I haven't heard the AA, but if it's designed to deal with drone above 3K that misses the mark IMO.

In fact, the only systems I've heard with minimal drone are the stock exhaust or Dinan. (Even stock has some drone about 2K). I'm sure there are others out there with lower drone levels (some of the TI systems come to mind as do the $$$$$ signs that go with them).

Dinan gets dinged because of fake tips, but it also uses Helzholtz chambers (like stock and AA) and the single tips are there for the very reason that even with a Helmhotz chamber the dual tip straight through design results will result in some level of drone.

The advice Nick@Jlevi SW gave is as good as it gets. Listen and drive a car with what you're thinking about on it. "Drone" is a subjective measure as is "loud but not too loud". Take your time and have fun.

Mike@MWDesign · 02-09-2010, 04:53 PM

Like what the others said, it is tough to pick an exhaust for someone as everyone appreciates a different volume and tone like music.

In my personal opinion, I love the Eisenmann race. To me that captures the essence of the high winding V8. It is beefy bark at low rpms and pronounces the high pitched sound at high rpms.

The sound is tight -there isn't a hollowness or sloppiness to the sound. Rev-matched downshifts sound amazing.

Its not overly annoying in the cabin and can be very calm for daily driving if you drive it casually.

If you want crazier, add highflow cats and midpipes.

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ADubM3 First Lieutenant 12 Rep 338 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NoVa 703 iTrader: (0)	Which exhaust? Ready to pull the trigger! I've been wanting to get an aftermarket exhaust (just axle back) for a while now and below are my choices from all of the searching and reviews I've read on this forum. One thing I haven't found is a quick summary of the more popular systems in the order of Loudness. Can someone put these in the order of louder to calm and also some thoughts on the exhaust note based on your experience please? I really don't expect much HP gains from an axle back exhaust so sound is the highest priority. (not too loud though) I'm open to all types of sound except the American muscle car sound. If I'm missing a system please feel to add to my list. 1.Eisenmann Race & 2. Sport 3.Remus Race & 4. Sport 5.AA 6.Meisterschaft GT & 7. HP 8.Gintani 9.RPI Thanks for you help
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H Bomb Lieutenant Colonel 65 Rep 1,676 Posts Drives: 08 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: FL to NY iTrader: (4)	Tons of sound clips and threads on sound and all this. a quick search will prob net you over 30 threads easy you forgot the Dinan muffler most sound deep below 4k and then they get an exotic pitch up after 4k. most. some have the muscle sound all the time. then the really expensive Kressing one is most F1 like from what i have heard __________________ Street- 08 E92 M3- Sparkling Graphite/ Fox Red/6sp Track- 10 CRF 250-PR2 Race Motor/Ohlins TTX Susp Hauler- 06 Ford Skyjacker F250 4WD
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SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 375 Rep 17,017 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	The best thing I can advise is to listen to clips, listen to them in person and if you can, drive or ride in the car. Exhausts are a very subjective upgrade and really depends on how loud or aggressive you want it. The exhausts you listed run the whole spectrum of sound output so it would be best to figure out what you want (super aggressive, more grumble, fairly quiet etc...) and then listen to the exhausts in person to be absolutely sure it's a sound you want.
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ryan@ActiveAutowerke Lieutenant 39 Rep 431 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (0)	The Active Autowerke Signature E9X M3 Exhaust The Active Autowerke E9X M3 Exhaust is made for performance as well as beauty. Compare the designs and you will find out why Active Autowerke's Exhaust makes true power! Active Autowerke Signature E9X M3 Exhaust Eisenmann Remus [IMG]http://www.**********s.com/zoom_img/_1220027716.jpg[/IMG] Meisterschaft GT Gintani Exhuast RPI The Active Autowerke Signature E9X M3 Exhaust is the only exhaust in this comparison with the Signature Noise Cancellation Chamber (NCC) which cancels drone after 3K. Ask yourself what the quickest route between two points? A straight line is the answer! The straight through design is what makes the power. This exhaust enhances the sound of you M3 significantly as well as the power with a gain of 12 usable horsepower. The HP gains don't stop there. With the addition of the Active Performance Software, Performance Pulley, and X pipe the gains are above 25hp. Come and play with Power! PM if you have any questions on pricing.
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H Bomb Lieutenant Colonel 65 Rep 1,676 Posts Drives: 08 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: FL to NY iTrader: (4)	^ nice sales pitch but it still has some drone. the other make true power too the Dinan has 0 drone at any rpm and makes true power the AA is a nice system but it isn't the holy grail or anything __________________ Street- 08 E92 M3- Sparkling Graphite/ Fox Red/6sp Track- 10 CRF 250-PR2 Race Motor/Ohlins TTX Susp Hauler- 06 Ford Skyjacker F250 4WD
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SpencerM3 Sauce 75 Rep 2,023 Posts Drives: 2009 SSII E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (1)	I'd put the Eisenmann Sport and Akrapovic in there too towards the more calm level. __________________ 2009 E90 M3 \| Silverstone II \| Black Novillo \| HRE P40's \| Akrapovic Exhaust \| Eibach Pro Kit \| Jet Black Kidney Grilles \| SSII Side Reflectors \| SSII Side Gills \| LUX H8 Angel Eyes \| Macht Schnell Filter \| Tecnocraft Envy Charge Pipe "M3 drivers have no friends." - Jeremy Clarkson
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montreal red chris 278 Rep 12,144 Posts Drives: White Boat Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (31)	for excellent value for money, i'd say remus... if not eisenmann sport or AA would be good too. all 3 are among the best in the business. __________________ Current: 2013 F10 M5 & 2016 Mini JCW 2013 GLK350 (gone), 997.1 GT3RS (gone), 2009 WRX STI (gone), e92 M3 (gone)
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ADubM3 First Lieutenant 12 Rep 338 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NoVa 703 iTrader: (0)	Wow! Thanks for all of your responses and feed back. I must say I have listened to MANY video clips of cars revving and doing drive byes but it's hard to see how loud each system is compared to one another. Nothing better than your experiences and thoughts. Your candid feed back is very much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Last edited by ADubM3; 02-02-2010 at 10:29 PM..
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WPBM3 New Member 2 Rep 16 Posts Drives: 2009 E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ohio iTrader: (0)	I just Installed Borla Cat back on my 2009 E90 M3, and I amvvery happy with ease of install, look and sound. $1300 from Turner.....on the loud end, but with a deep growl. 2009 E90 M3, AW with Black Leather, 6MT,sunroof delete, 50%tint, black grill, Turner pedal set, black powder coated 18"OEM rims with H&R 10/12mm spacers, Borla cat back exhaust
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e90M3joe New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: 2009 e90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Baltimore, maryland iTrader: (0)	Hey gang- what about Supersprint- any opinions? seems like a quality product.....
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Trier Germany Banned 58 Rep 1,084 Posts Drives: 2009 E-90 M3 space gray Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Deutschland KreisTrier auf Autobahn 64 & Tucson AZ iTrader: (1)	Out of all those exhaust you listed. Go with AA I believe it's quality, price, fit, finish and sound is top notch! You can't go wrong
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Mike@MWDesign 28 Rep 481 Posts Drives: E46 Wide 332i \| X5 \| BRPSPYDER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Canada iTrader: (2)	Like what the others said, it is tough to pick an exhaust for someone as everyone appreciates a different volume and tone like music. In my personal opinion, I love the Eisenmann race. To me that captures the essence of the high winding V8. It is beefy bark at low rpms and pronounces the high pitched sound at high rpms. The sound is tight -there isn't a hollowness or sloppiness to the sound. Rev-matched downshifts sound amazing. Its not overly annoying in the cabin and can be very calm for daily driving if you drive it casually. If you want crazier, add highflow cats and midpipes.
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