Upgrade: BSW Stage 1 Kit vs EPS Speakers

[nullrouted]

Originally Posted by sungjungsc

Got it! But, i'm planning to make the upgrade as possible as OEM. I heard i can fit in XD600/6 into original amp location. But, if i find a good deal on HD900/D, i will consider it.

You are correct, the XD600 fits in the stock location, more or less. The HD900/5 setup will require the euro cd changer OEM trunk trim piece and a custom rack from MusicarNW. If you haven't already given them a call I would highly recommend it, they can give you great advice and a great price on whatever you desire.

[Longbow64]

Originally Posted by sungjungsc

i don't have a doubt that BSW will sound great. However, i thought, for a fraction of dollars, EPS speakers are better quality compared to BSW Stage 1 Kit. For instance, EPS comes with crossovers for the front mid-speaker sets, while BSW Stage 1 doesn't come with it (Top of the line of BSW comes with it, but it's $499 for the front set, while EPS speakers are around $400 for a front set). I'm not a audio expertise, but all the high end speakers like morel comes with the crossovers for the front set. That's the turning point for me to post this thread and compare both.

Actually, the BSW Stage 1 kit for the EPS does come with crossovers (not depicted), but if you click on the "what's included" tab, you'll see that the EPS upgrade comes with 4xtweeters, 7xmidrange, and 2xcrossover networks. I'm only two days away from getting my set in the mail. I'll keep you updated.

[sungjungsc]

Yes, it does for EPS equipped vehicle, but i have Hifi stereo system which doesn't come with it. That's why we were having misunderstanding.

For Hifi Stereo System (Base for M3): It comes with standard version which doesn't come with crossovers. (Front: $349).

For EPS: It comes with better version which does come with crossovers (Front: $499).

BTW, i'm still very curious how it will sounds. Please keep me posted!
Thank you!


http://www.bavsound.com/product/596/...Series-M3-E92/

Originally Posted by Longbow64

Actually, the BSW Stage 1 kit for the EPS does come with crossovers (not depicted), but if you click on the "what's included" tab, you'll see that the EPS upgrade comes with 4xtweeters, 7xmidrange, and 2xcrossover networks. I'm only two days away from getting my set in the mail. I'll keep you updated.

[Longbow64]

I see. I thought you were talking EPS replacement. So, I priced a replacement set of EPS speakers through one of the popular OEM sponsors on the forum and it comes out to just about the same price as the BSW set. Even though the BSW are on the way, I may just go back to EPS OEM since from most of the feedback I've received says that the EPS is a better setup.

[UroGator]

Originally Posted by nullrouted

You are correct, the XD600 fits in the stock location, more or less. The HD900/5 setup will require the euro cd changer OEM trunk trim piece and a custom rack from MusicarNW. If you haven't already given them a call I would highly recommend it, they can give you great advice and a great price on whatever you desire.

Have you installed your sound system upgrade yet? You in Gainesville? Check your PM I sent you

[mkPOTO]

im currently running the MB Quart speakers, tweeters and subwoofers and wow they are very nice, currently I have them connected the stock amp and the sound is so much better. I will be RTA testing the speakers with the stock amp and will post information. I am looking to see how much of a beating the amp can take and then upgrade to my MB Quart amp

check out my thread
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=898303

[Longbow64]

I got my BSW Stage 1 for EPS today. By the time I got home for work, I only had time to replace the center channel and rear deck. The quality looks and feels great. Install is very simple and can be done by anyone with the proper tools so you don't scratch up your trim. The center channel cover was somewhat painful to get off. Once I have the system complete (probably over the weekend), I'll compare the sound quality with my buddy's E92 EPS with the same source, song, EQ setting, and volume.

[Technic]

Let me know if you are selling the front and center EPS speakers, please. Ready to buy them if the price is right...

Tried to PM you but your inbox is full.

[Longbow64]

My center EPS channel is definately blown. The tweeter on the driver's side doesn't play anything, so I assum that's blown and the left front door speaker sounds blown too. The passenger side sounds good. This is all due to water getting into my amp and shorting out my system.

[Technic]

Originally Posted by Longbow64

My center EPS channel is definately blown. The tweeter on the driver's side doesn't play anything, so I assum that's blown and the left front door speaker sounds blown too. The passenger side sounds good. This is all due to water getting into my amp and shorting out my system.

Thanks... that's sad, great OEM speakers.

What about the rear/side OEM speakers?

[Longbow64]

Installed the rest of the BSW speakers over the weekend. I'm no audio expert, nor could I give you any technical specs on differences between the speakers, but the sound is great. I haven't had good speakers in my car since mid-Nov so I really forgot how the EPS sounded. I can tell you that the majority, if not all of my EPS speakers, felt damaged and/or blown from the amp shorting out due to water incursion (and that was just because of rain, not because I left my trunk open or anything.

[mkPOTO]

very nice looks good

[sungjungsc]

This looks good! What i found from your comparison of EPS and BSW speakers are BSW speakers looks much better in quality (i'm not an expert, so it might be just from the look), but it does look much better. How does it sound?

Originally Posted by Longbow64

Installed the rest of the BSW speakers over the weekend. I'm no audio expert, nor could I give you any technical specs on differences between the speakers, but the sound is great. I haven't had good speakers in my car since mid-Nov so I really forgot how the EPS sounded. I can tell you that the majority, if not all of my EPS speakers, felt damaged and/or blown from the amp shorting out due to water incursion (and that was just because of rain, not because I left my trunk open or anything.

[kaigoss69]

EPS speakers are very good. I doubt there would be a large difference just by swapping the speakers. Main bottleneck is OEM EPS amp, that's where you get most bang for your buck if you're willing to replace it.

[Longbow64]

Like I said, the sound is great. I'm comparing that to speakers that were either blown or damaged. I plan on comparing them with my friend's E92 EPS using the same source, same song, same EQ settings (recommended EQ settings from that thread), and same volume. I think there's probably some difference comparing E90 to E92 but that's what we have. I concur that the EPS amp is the limiting factor, but from what I understand, and I might be wrong, it's fairly difficult to just swap out the EPS amp.

[dparm]

Originally Posted by Z K

I don't think the BSW speakers better than the EPS speakers...

A great option looks like the Focal BMW speaker upgrade. Plug and Play too!
http://www.focal.com/en/dedicated-dr...051750530.html

Or MB Quart speakers. Also Plug and Play.
http://www.mbquart.com/mbquart_bmw_speakers.html

Anyone know if the Focal or MB Quart set is is better than EPS speakers?

Those look pretty nice, but as others have said, the limiting factor is the amp.

[dknydiep]

any update to this?

[AMG_LAWL]

OP, what did you decide on?? Im on the same boat as you and would love to know what you ended up doing!

[WickedE93]

Originally Posted by Longbow64

Like I said, the sound is great. I'm comparing that to speakers that were either blown or damaged. I plan on comparing them with my friend's E92 EPS using the same source, same song, same EQ settings (recommended EQ settings from that thread), and same volume. I think there's probably some difference comparing E90 to E92 but that's what we have. I concur that the EPS amp is the limiting factor, but from what I understand, and I might be wrong, it's fairly difficult to just swap out the EPS amp.

Did you ever make the comparison?

[Rudy-TX]

I have used focal speakers on my other car. They are the best in business. For sure expensive, but nothing come even close.

[Longbow64]

Yes, they were about the same. Not much of a difference.

[WickedE93]

Originally Posted by Longbow64

Yes, they were about the same. Not much of a difference.

Thank you for the update, gladly I won't be spending any money there in this case.