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      07-26-2012, 07:40 AM   #23
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      07-26-2012, 08:22 AM   #24
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I wonder if they thought this was going to be "cheaper and safer than going to the track"...
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      07-26-2012, 09:18 AM   #25
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I have always said this, anything above 300hp should require 10 years of driving experience with no history of negligence. A 22 year old with an M3? That's just insane! There is no way, absolutely no way, for a 22 year old man's brain to function at a level that can comprehend the meaning of that amount of power.
Depends on the 22 year old. I have a 21 year old that I would let drive any of my cars, my 23 year daughter on the other hand, I have a problem when she borrows my bicycle without asking.
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      07-26-2012, 10:02 AM   #26
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I have always said this, anything above 300hp should require 10 years of driving experience with no history of negligence. A 22 year old with an M3? That's just insane! There is no way, absolutely no way, for a 22 year old man's brain to function at a level that can comprehend the meaning of that amount of power.
Most Forumla One drivers start competing professionally in their early 20's, some even before that. I've seen you say this a couple times and completely disagree.

An E9x M3 is not hard to handle... At all.

It's a question of maturity, self control, and common sense.

Now experience would have definitely helped me when I totaled my viper. 505whp with no traction control or ABS. That should require driving experience, not an M3.
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      07-26-2012, 11:35 AM   #27
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I have always said this, anything above 300hp should require 10 years of driving experience with no history of negligence. A 22 year old with an M3? That's just insane! There is no way, absolutely no way, for a 22 year old man's brain to function at a level that can comprehend the meaning of that amount of power.
I beg to differ.
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      07-26-2012, 01:23 PM   #28
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Last time I checked none of those were high-end cars.
Well maybe the Nissan.....
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      07-26-2012, 01:31 PM   #29
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I have always said this, anything above 300hp should require 10 years of driving experience with no history of negligence. A 22 year old with an M3? That's just insane! There is no way, absolutely no way, for a 22 year old man's brain to function at a level that can comprehend the meaning of that amount of power.
Back in my day, we had to hike 10 miles, uphill, in two feet of snow to get to school!!!!

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      07-26-2012, 08:45 PM   #30
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Back in my day, we had to hike 10 miles, uphill, in two feet of snow to get to school!!!!

In my day, we didn't have days. There was only "time for work," "time for prayer" and "time for sleep." The sheriff would go around and tell everyone when to change.
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      07-26-2012, 09:42 PM   #31
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M3? High end? LOL
Wow pretty pompous, the payment on these cars is what most pay for their
mortgage's. I hope life continues to treat you well.
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      07-26-2012, 10:31 PM   #32
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I'm sure the M3 won!!!!
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I have always said this, anything above 300hp should require 10 years of driving experience with no history of negligence. A 22 year old with an M3? That's just insane! There is no way, absolutely no way, for a 22 year old man's brain to function at a level that can comprehend the meaning of that amount of power.
You come across as a really grumpy person in your posts.
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      07-27-2012, 12:17 PM   #34
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"high end" is about your perspective.
Thank goodness no one referred to the cars as "exotics". :wipes brow:
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      07-27-2012, 12:43 PM   #35
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Depends on the 22 year old. I have a 21 year old that I would let drive any of my cars, my 23 year daughter on the other hand, I have a problem when she borrows my bicycle without asking.
definitely true.

lol @ daughter comment.
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      07-27-2012, 01:57 PM   #36
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I would consider a $40000 + tax car high-end or expensive when I was at his age.
By this rationale, my Kia Sorrento (which was $35k when I bought it new), is 'high-end'! I KNEW I was a baller*!







*Or maybe just stupid for spending that much on a Kia.
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      07-27-2012, 02:06 PM   #37
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I wonder if they thought this was going to be "cheaper and safer than going to the track"...
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      07-27-2012, 03:16 PM   #38
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Totally different things.

Also, I guarantee you that most people, if not all, disagreeing with my comments towards 20 year olds themselves are 20-22 year olds. I know my comments piss you off, but remember that I have been there, done that (without the M3, it was a 1.5k worth piece of shit ford) and I know exactly what it means to be a young man when every hormone in your body moves to different direction and you feel like your blood is boiling and how you know everything the best and how everyone else telling you something different is an idiot to you.

It's textbook example, you get a car like this when you are 21 years old, barely enough to handle a bottle of beer, you WILL get in trouble with something, be it cops, accidents, other people keying your car, so on.

It's so funny I see people posting pictures of their car being keyed, hit, smashed windows, everyone comes here and blames "haters". I parked this car in such areas, I don't think I'd make it out alive walking at night. Not once anyone keyed my car, or a cop pulled me over for no reason (oh and yes, I have no front license plate for several years now). So before you blame others for M3 haters, why don't you look at the mirror and look at the image you bring on to the table and give everyone a break.

Note : "You" in my post above isn't cposk, I was addressing to the crowd who seem to think I'm grumpy.
Every young man is different; not everyone is/was like you. It depends on maturity level, not just the age. Lumping everyone in in the same group is quite wrong on your end. I'm 23, own an E46 M3, and haven't been in trouble with the exception of an accident (wasn't my fault at all), and a speeding ticket for doing 65 in a 50 (which is hardly speeding, really).
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      07-27-2012, 07:36 PM   #39
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Learner's License?
86mph is "street racing"? Holy cow, there's a "construction zone" on my commute that was apparently built like a 70mph highway. It's ALWAYS a "construction zone" because the ticket prices are doubled if it is consider a construction zone. There is almost NEVER any work going on, but there are almost always people pushing 80-85 on their commute. I mean soccer moms in the Highlander, guy in a beat up old Impala-pretty obviously not "street racers", just people who don't know how to read a speedo.

There seems to be a bit of hyperbole in the story. Is this really worthy of impounding without some other dangerous driving? Is this just a ploy to generate money for a cash strapped community? (I saw the link about 13 cars so far impounded-it appears to be a common tactic in this area?)
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they should do this in the US too.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. Civil forfeiture leads to greedy officials taking property to attain assets. It is RIFE with corruption and absolutely violates due-process.

Read up about just some of the abuses before advocating for this. By the way, it has been used in the US. The case linked below has some pretty credible evidence to support that a group of greedy officials intended to seize the property due to its value.

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-03-...l-civil-rights
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      07-27-2012, 08:07 PM   #41
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"ABSOLUTELY NOT. Civil forfeiture leads to greedy officials taking property to attain assets. It is RIFE with corruption and absolutely violates due-process."

Amen TVMA Doc! This should never be allowed n the US
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      07-27-2012, 08:17 PM   #42
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ABSOLUTELY NOT. Civil forfeiture leads to greedy officials taking property to attain assets. It is RIFE with corruption and absolutely violates due-process.

Read up about just some of the abuses before advocating for this. By the way, it has been used in the US. The case linked below has some pretty credible evidence to support that a group of greedy officials intended to seize the property due to its value.

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-03-...l-civil-rights

your logic doesn't make sense. the punishment should fit the crime. Properly trained and audited LE departments should not be corrupt. Assuming all LE is corrupt and will take advantage is a flawed argument.

It's like saying b/c we have racist cops arresting minorities, we should stop arresting minorities. It's not a minorities issue, it's a crime issue. Racist cops in this case should be terminated from the department. If local voters feel strongly about this a proper punishment, so be it. Let the citizens decide.
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