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[bullitt5897]

if your questioning whether the M3 is soft or not go watch the video I posted thats in German. I will tell you this the M wont let us down

[Just_me]

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

if your questioning whether the M3 is soft or not go watch the video I posted thats in German. I will tell you this the M wont let us down

but is it enough to keep the C63 AMG away? that remain to be seen.

[M3onTwomps]

Originally Posted by RussianM3_dude

Nobody doubts the M3 is fast, some of us are just concerned it has gone soft. Efficient but boring.

Boring? Are you serious?

Does that look boring?

[M3onTwomps]

Originally Posted by Just_me

but is it enough to keep the C63 AMG away? that remain to be seen.

Around a track? I'm betting it will be.

[ruff]

Originally Posted by lucid

Not much better probably; it would be really nose heavy...

I doubt the c63 can beat the M3 with all the extra weight and auto transmission, but we'll see...

I read somewhere that the C63 motor is about the same weight as the 4 liter M. Doesn't make any sense. Has anyone heard anything about this?

[RussianM3_dude]

Originally Posted by M3onTwomps

Boring? Are you serious?

Does that look boring?

Any RWD car can oversteer, I meant the tactile feedback.

[M3onTwomps]

Originally Posted by RussianM3_dude

Any RWD car can oversteer, I meant the tactile feedback.

Whatever man. Nowhere have I seen any of the reviews say the car was boring.

Go troll somewhere else. Your act is getting old. You're doing the same thing at m3forum.com. Grow up.

[The CSL]

My rwd car won't oversteer in anything other than the wet or lift-off. To say any rwd car can power oversteer on demand is a little simplistic.

[lucid]

Originally Posted by ruff

I read somewhere that the C63 motor is about the same weight as the 4 liter M. Doesn't make any sense. Has anyone heard anything about this?

Unlikely, but not impossible. I haven't heard anything about it.

[RussianM3_dude]

Originally Posted by M3onTwomps

Whatever man. Nowhere have I seen any of the reviews say the car was boring.

Go troll somewhere else. Your act is getting old. You're doing the same thing at m3forum.com. Grow up.

So one only can participate in the discussion if he thinks that the M3 is the best thing since sliced bread? Last time I checked this IS a place to debate the new M3.

[southlight]

Originally Posted by RussianM3_dude

So one only can participate in the discussion if he thinks that the M3 is the best thing since sliced bread?

Yeah that should be part of the forum rules! Great idea! Maybe one of the admins can add that part to the rules...

Originally Posted by RussianM3_dude

Last time I checked this IS a place to debate the new M3.

Okay, you're right. But it seems to me that you have a problem with so many of today's cars. Maybe you could tell which "actual" car you like and what points about that car you're fearing the M3 couldn't meet... That would be a better base for the debate that you desire than "OMG, the car gone soft "...

Best regards, south

[RussianM3_dude]

I like the Renault Sports. The Clio 197 Cup Pack and Megane R26. Both are cheap, ca. 24K and 30K in Europe (probably would have been 18 and 24 in US) the first has a 100hp/liter 4cylinder, buckets. Is light-ish, Brembos etc. Great fun even at very sane speeds. The Megane is basically track ready out of the box. Did I mention they were built in a special factory in Dieppe and were cheap?
Porsches are good cars to emulate. Especially for steering feel.

http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/

Renault even organizes track days for owners.

[Phoenix 21st]

oh dear!

[ILC32]

Originally Posted by RussianM3_dude

I like the Renault Sports. The Clio 197 Cup Pack and Megane R26. Both are cheap, ca. 24K and 30K in Europe (probably would have been 18 and 24 in US) the first has a 100hp/liter 4cylinder, buckets. Is light-ish, Brembos etc. Great fun even at very sane speeds. The Megane is basically track ready out of the box. Did I mention they were built in a special factory in Dieppe and were cheap?
Porsches are good cars to emulate. Especially for steering feel.

http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/

Renault even organizes track days for owners.

What the heck are you doing here?

The M3 is nothing like a Clio or Megane. Is there a Clio or Megane forum that could benefit from your insight and knowledge? You might be more appreciated there.

[13eastie]

Originally Posted by RussianM3_dude

I like the Renault Sports. The Clio 197 Cup Pack and Megane R26. Both are cheap, ca. 24K and 30K in Europe (probably would have been 18 and 24 in US) the first has a 100hp/liter 4cylinder, buckets. Is light-ish, Brembos etc. Great fun even at very sane speeds. The Megane is basically track ready out of the box. Did I mention they were built in a special factory in Dieppe and were cheap?
Porsches are good cars to emulate. Especially for steering feel.

http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/

Renault even organizes track days for owners.

>> Papa?
>> Nicole!

[RussianM3_dude]

Originally Posted by ILC32

What the heck are you doing here?

The M3 is nothing like a Clio or Megane. Is there a Clio or Megane forum that could benefit from your insight and knowledge? You might be more appreciated there.

Captain Obvious to the rescue!!!!!! Of course they are different. I was just sayng whicj cars I am feeling right now. Cheap and lots of fun. My RS4 is 4 times as expensive (Euro prices) but is half the fun. Heck, I am likeing the 135 more and more... especially in white.

[M3onTwomps]

Originally Posted by RussianM3_dude

So one only can participate in the discussion if he thinks that the M3 is the best thing since sliced bread? Last time I checked this IS a place to debate the new M3.

You're not debating anything. You're trolling and acting like a child.

[tg123]

Originally Posted by ruff

I read somewhere that the C63 motor is about the same weight as the 4 liter M. Doesn't make any sense. Has anyone heard anything about this?

C63 motor is lighter

[lucid]

Originally Posted by tg123

C63 motor is lighter

by how much?

[M3onTwomps]

Source?

[gasman]

Originally Posted by RussianM3_dude

I like the Renault Sports. The Clio 197 Cup Pack and Megane R26. Both are cheap, ca. 24K and 30K in Europe (probably would have been 18 and 24 in US) the first has a 100hp/liter 4cylinder, buckets. Is light-ish, Brembos etc. Great fun even at very sane speeds. The Megane is basically track ready out of the box. Did I mention they were built in a special factory in Dieppe and were cheap?
Porsches are good cars to emulate. Especially for steering feel.

http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/

Renault even organizes track days for owners.

Dude take your clio, yugo, or ford fiesta....whatever it is... and go troll on some other board.

[13eastie]

Originally Posted by gasman

Dude take your clio, yugo, or ford fiesta....whatever it is... and go troll on some other board.

Easy with the Fiestiaphobia, dude