intake

mikeycamp28 · 10-08-2013, 12:46 PM

I have a e92 3013 I see ppl say just to replace the stock filter for the intake... or should I replace the intake with a upgraded one?

thekurgan · 10-08-2013, 01:04 PM

If you want noise, I guess you can replace the intake, else it flows just fine right out of the box.

KmndntKlink · 10-08-2013, 01:17 PM

take it from a guy who extensively researched this, just get a performance filter. K&N or AA. You'll get a little nicer noise & they're not paper so they flow better than OEM. Don't waste your money on a full intake, the stock one is more than capable. You only need a drop in filter.

mikeycamp28 · 10-08-2013, 01:17 PM

noise is always good! but I just don't see spending 800 on plastic lol what makes those other air intakes better then the stock m3 one?

KmndntKlink · 10-08-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeycamp28

noise is always good! but I just don't see spending 800 on plastic lol what makes those other air intakes better then the stock m3 one?

tbh, nothing as far as I can tell so you're right on about the not paying for plastic. the 800$ ones are usually carbon fiber, so it looks nicer thats about it.

There's a lot of debate & the makers will promote ~10hp gains, but the 3 independent experts i've talked to say its a total waste and the gains are only cuz of a filter, not the intake system.

consider this: all the M3 race cars use the stock intake, they just swap the filter. if its good enough for them, it's good enough for you/me

mikeycamp28 · 10-08-2013, 01:34 PM

right on man thanks for the help and your input!!

thekurgan · 10-08-2013, 01:50 PM

Keep in mind, the non-paper filters don't 'filter' nearly as well and for race cars, where their engine life is measured in hours, not miles, it may be ok to allow extra silica into the engine, but for a street engine, probably not worth the extra sound or 2hp at WOT.

Leonardo629 · 10-08-2013, 02:02 PM

Go with a MS Stg2 or Dinan, or just stay stock since a drop-in does nothing.

spool twice · 10-08-2013, 03:08 PM

He has a 2013 without the charcoal filter like the earlier M3s, wouldnt full intakes with a larger elbow be better to see and feel some gains on later models?

Haywood · 10-09-2013, 08:42 AM

I just installed the MS intake. Not sure it's giving me any extra hp's, but I love the sound it makes at WOT! That's worth it for me.

buylongterm · 10-09-2013, 12:45 PM

I bought the aFe Stage 2 Pro and have been extremely happy with it. I love the sound it makes and realize now, that's pretty much what I paid for. (which I'm OK with)

KmndntKlink · 10-09-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo629

Go with a MS Stg2 or Dinan, or just stay stock since a drop-in does nothing.

don't for the love of all that is holy get a macht schnell intake. Experts have told me its crap & I held one in my hands and backed out of buying it instantly. Horrible quality. You can get the same sound with just a drop in. I've heard good things about the dinan though, its just very $$. It does look pretty

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Originally Posted by spool twice

He has a 2013 without the charcoal filter like the earlier M3s, wouldnt full intakes with a larger elbow be better to see and feel some gains on later models?

Actually no, I've heard the opposite. You'll get more benefit from swapping the older 07/08 M3s than post MY09. There was apparently a small tweak & the switch to paper @ that point.

saxonb · 10-10-2013, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KmndntKlink

don't for the love of all that is holy get a macht schnell intake. Experts have told me its crap & I held one in my hands and backed out of buying it instantly. Horrible quality. You can get the same sound with just a drop in. I've heard good things about the dinan though, its just very $$. It does look pretty

Actually no, I've heard the opposite. You'll get more benefit from swapping the older 07/08 M3s than post MY09. There was apparently a small tweak & the switch to paper @ that point.

The MS Stage 2 intake pipe didn't fit properly in my car. The airbox could not stay down and the screws would not tighten because the intake elbow was too large. The duct to the front intake scoops would not go on either, because the airbox again was unable to close fully.

I changed it back to stock and kept the filter and front scoops.

F-

Would not buy again.

Also, I suspect that the OEM plastic has better heat insulation properties.

spool twice · 10-10-2013, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KmndntKlink

Actually no, I've heard the opposite. You'll get more benefit from swapping the older 07/08 M3s than post MY09. There was apparently a small tweak & the switch to paper @ that point.

that what I meant to say, my typing didn't convey it

thekurgan · 10-10-2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KmndntKlink

don't for the love of all that is holy get a macht schnell intake. Experts have told me its crap & I held one in my hands and backed out of buying it instantly. Horrible quality. You can get the same sound with just a drop in. I've heard good things about the dinan though, its just very $$. It does look pretty

Actually no, I've heard the opposite. You'll get more benefit from swapping the older 07/08 M3s than post MY09. There was apparently a small tweak & the switch to paper @ that point.

I'd like to see dynos with and without this charcoal filter for gains; I'm betting it's imperceivable.

KmndntKlink · 10-10-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thekurgan

I'd like to see dynos with and without this charcoal filter for gains; I'm betting it's imperceivable.

that's what I'm thinking too, but I do know for sure that there will be an improvement in air flow & sound @ least. prob not power, but you're never going to get much there

thekurgan · 10-10-2013, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KmndntKlink

that's what I'm thinking too, but I do know for sure that there will be an improvement in air flow & sound @ least. prob not power, but you're never going to get much there

You're right, the foam/gauze filters are just noise and extra dirt. People seem to like them though.

KmndntKlink · 10-11-2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by thekurgan

You're right, the foam/gauze filters are just noise and extra dirt. People seem to like them though.

idk about the extra dirt, but I love it. makes this great gargly sound @ 3krpm, totally addicting. My paper one was dirty anyway and the aftermarkets are cheaper than what the stealership charges, so its a no brainer IMHO

Haywood · 10-11-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by saxonb

The MS Stage 2 intake pipe didn't fit properly in my car. The airbox could not stay down and the screws would not tighten because the intake elbow was too large. The duct to the front intake scoops would not go on either, because the airbox again was unable to close fully.

I changed it back to stock and kept the filter and front scoops.

F-

Would not buy again.

Also, I suspect that the OEM plastic has better heat insulation properties.

I followed the video and had no issues. Maybe, because you have an '07? Not sure.

Leonardo629 · 10-11-2013, 07:44 PM

I've had all three (MS Stg 2, Dinan, BMC drop in), I'd get MS stg2 if u have limited ///M funds, Dinan if u can pony up the money. I've never had fitment issue with MS intake.

saxonb · 10-12-2013, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Haywood

I followed the video and had no issues. Maybe, because you have an '07? Not sure.

I had two workshops look at it, and my mechanic friend and we all agreed that it was not moulded correctly so yes it might be 07 fitment issues.

It also might be poor quality control.

Are there actually different part numbers for air boxes throughout the years?

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mikeycamp28 Private 9 Rep 58 Posts Drives: BMW M3 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Central Jersey iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW M3 [0.00]	noise is always good! but I just don't see spending 800 on plastic lol what makes those other air intakes better then the stock m3 one?
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