This is unbelievable, the dealership is playing games.

husan786 · 06-24-2011, 01:18 PM

So two weeks ago i went because there was a serious banging noise when shift from 1st to 2nd. I took is in and they told me that the bolt that holds the diff is broken and theyll replace it for me. Yesterday i was driving and all of a sudden i hear another bang and the car starts to make a noise as if something was hanging down. I took it in the dealership right away to get it checked. They called me in the morning say that the subframe was damaged and the rear end was too. They told me that there is alot of damage and they wont be able to fix it because it was shown that the car was abused??? i didnt abuse it at all thats the funny part? The service manager told me that theyll talk to bmw abt it but most likely they wont cover it. I mean are they serious ? what should i do?

virjose · 06-24-2011, 01:20 PM

WOW, this is crazy as its seems like lately more and more stories are popping out about issues with bolts and subframes that dealerships are refusing to honor with warranty. Hope they fix it up for you given that they had just worked in that area

NYCM3ryder · 06-24-2011, 01:27 PM

wow.... i had this issue twice and my dealer had no issue in replacing the bolts which snapped!!! holding the diff in place. Second time they said subframe was also sort of damaged and they replaced it all rear end as well with no issue.... its the dealer sometimes they just dont wanna do the work... try another dealer... u have warranty... and even if u do abuse the car so wat its an m3 it should be able to take a beating and like it!!!!!!!! lol.... my SA understands that so thats why hes like dont worry its getting fixed... good luck man

FVM3 · 06-24-2011, 01:28 PM

What did you do to your car?

saeyedoc · 06-24-2011, 01:30 PM

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=547435
Same issue, you related?

lhsa · 06-24-2011, 01:45 PM

did you have an aftermarket exhaust?

any LC use?

Grail05 · 06-24-2011, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saeyedoc

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=547435
Same issue, you related?

LOL

i was going to ask the same thing... the car seems to be related...

husan786 · 06-24-2011, 02:02 PM

i have a aftermarket exchaust and h and r springs

Mahmood07 · 06-24-2011, 02:06 PM

Is it just me or are there so many problems with the 2011 M3's?

Kiemyster · 06-24-2011, 02:14 PM

^^^ I certainly hope not.... Thank god my own has been going strong, but its still under 8k miles. Wont be letting her past 20k miles in the next 4 years, thats for sure.

chmura · 06-24-2011, 02:14 PM

Can someone explain to me how installing a aftermarket exhaust will effect the rear sub-frame on the M3?? Do you have to take any diff/sub-frame bolts off to install an aftermarket exhaust??

I have a e90 on order and I am stressing out because of all these recent issues.

Canceling even crossed my mind! Seems like I have to take a 2 month break from this forum or something..

Not sure if they are legit issues or people beating the crap out of their cars.

FVM3 · 06-24-2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiemyster

^^^ I certainly hope not.... Thank god my own has been going strong, but its still under 8k miles. Wont be letting her past 20k miles in the next 4 years, thats for sure.

12K total in 4 years? Drive your car

mkoesel · 06-24-2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by husan786

i have a aftermarket exchaust and h and r springs

Then you might want to read this:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499159

immiketoo · 06-24-2011, 02:20 PM

Damn, maybe I should have the dealer put mine on... I was gonna do it meself.

MB Hawaii · 06-24-2011, 02:33 PM

Dealerships love to do warranty work if they can. They get paid either way. Must be more to this story.....

Un_limited · 06-24-2011, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB Hawaii

Dealerships love to do warranty work if they can. They get paid either way. Must be more to this story.....

+1
dealerships get paid when they do warranty work, so they would rather take your car and do all they can so they can get most money off of it.

JCtx · 06-24-2011, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by husan786

i have a aftermarket exchaust and h and r springs

We have a winner

. If you haven't experienced axle hop (yeah, I know you wouldn't admit it here

), probably a bad installation job. Man, I've read several just this week alone.

Heavy a$$ bolts and subframes don't just break for no reason... you just have to find it

. Or BMW personnel will find it for you, unfortunately. Good luck man, and keep us posted.

Seattle S65B40 · 06-25-2011, 11:33 AM

Another broken subframe issue? You should coordinate with the other poster and set forth a concerted effort with the dealers and/or BMW (if there is an impending denial from them in your case as well). Be aggressive and tell them this is a manufacturer or design flaw and you will sue for breach of warranty if they deny the claim. You guys gotta get tough on these dealerships. You don't need a lawyer do that either...

UNLESS of course, you abused or misused your car, in which case, you might be out of luck.

signes · 06-25-2011, 02:23 PM

Of course, the first thing you always do... SUE THE FUCKERS!

husan786 · 06-26-2011, 12:59 PM

Yea im going in tomorow and argue with them. If anythin ill be taking it to a more reputatable service center

cloud8r · 06-26-2011, 01:34 PM

Sorry to hear this man. Make sure to print out the other threads about this and take it with you.

RJ

crackberry · 06-26-2011, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signes

Of course, the first thing you always do... SUE THE FUCKERS!

Unfortunately, sometimes this is the only way to get assholes to listen.

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husan786 Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 218 Posts Drives: RIP 335i ..God Bless 2011 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Yonkers, New York iTrader: (2)	This is unbelievable, the dealership is playing games. So two weeks ago i went because there was a serious banging noise when shift from 1st to 2nd. I took is in and they told me that the bolt that holds the diff is broken and theyll replace it for me. Yesterday i was driving and all of a sudden i hear another bang and the car starts to make a noise as if something was hanging down. I took it in the dealership right away to get it checked. They called me in the morning say that the subframe was damaged and the rear end was too. They told me that there is alot of damage and they wont be able to fix it because it was shown that the car was abused??? i didnt abuse it at all thats the funny part? The service manager told me that theyll talk to bmw abt it but most likely they wont cover it. I mean are they serious ? what should i do?
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NYCM3ryder Razzor 28 Rep 517 Posts Drives: JB E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: New York City iTrader: (0)	wow.... i had this issue twice and my dealer had no issue in replacing the bolts which snapped!!! holding the diff in place. Second time they said subframe was also sort of damaged and they replaced it all rear end as well with no issue.... its the dealer sometimes they just dont wanna do the work... try another dealer... u have warranty... and even if u do abuse the car so wat its an m3 it should be able to take a beating and like it!!!!!!!! lol.... my SA understands that so thats why hes like dont worry its getting fixed... good luck man __________________ 2011 E90, 6 speed, technology package, black 220 rims , EDC, moon roof, matt black grills, matte side grills, 15% carbon tints, carbon fiber M pedals, ACS roof wing, IND painted reflectors, mfest black gloss m3badges, Mfest side window stickers, Tuner MS 15mm spacers, Carbon fiber M foot pedals, MS air filter, RPI air scoops, euro switch mod
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