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Maybe the tip tt has more lag. I know that my stick had minimal and in most situations, none. I am certain that Porsche is targeting the GTR. You're right, 20-30 more horses and PDK will do quite a bit. I have also heard that with DI and re-designed engine architecture, the engine will have even more elasticity (not that it needed it) focused on more mid-range grunt. I am trying to get a 2010 GT3, which is my first pick. If that won't happen, then I am going back to the turbo. |
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08-30-2008, 10:26 AM | #26 |
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I languished over this comparo, with a C6Z06 in the mix as well. After all that I weighed, the M3 wn. It's the "SwissArmyKnife" of cars in this segment...backseat to the 996TT only in snow. As a daily driver with warrantee and maintenance (or at least half, since I'm not going 15Kmiles between oil changes), a respectable car for my work environment (private banker) that can carry my two kids in the back, and a potent track car...it was tough to beat.
The 996TT, well, it's a money pit...not just for maintenance but for ease of modding, and those mods aren't cheap. I'd get divorced if I bought the Porsche...engine mods, suspension, race-seats, cage...my wife is a good one, but not a saint and I wouldn't blame her as I've suffered from chronic "aftermarketitis' for many years. And then there's the "we've got a problem with the engine or tranny" nightmare...sure, they are stout but when something goes wrong it's BIG money. That's what really drove me away, and the need to buy/lease another car for work/DD duties. To the OP - if it's a weekend car/track car....get a 996GT3. Just a weekend car...996TT. In a few years you'll be able to sell either one for close to what you paid and then buy an M3 for 20K less than now, and you'll have the experience of the Pcar. Either way, good problem to have... Be good, TomK (the 996 in my screenname is from a Ducati996, not a Porsche)
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Certainly some valid points however the rear seat is only a bonus if one desires a back seat, otherwise it's moot. And, the 996tt is superior performance wise in any weather, whether it be foul or not.
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08-30-2008, 06:22 PM | #29 |
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I had a new Z06 as well, Not close to being in the same ball park as a 996 or 997 twin turbo.
NOT EVEN CLOSE. It's in the little league. and besides, every Tom Dick and Harry could own one. and they do, and they think there cool. Here in MSP there are only 5 or 6 Turbo's around compared to 10.000 of the Chevy. |
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But on the track, as I prefaced my above opinion based on PERFORMANCE, the Z06, as I'm sure you would agree, will demolish both of them...stock for stock or modded for modded. A set of T-1 sways and Hoosiers on the Z and there's not much short of a purpose built racecar, and a monster one at that, that can compete. But I needed back seats for the kids, so the M3 won.
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I used to drive my twin turbo's all year around, rain or shine. With great snow tires it was a blast to drive even in the Winter here in Mn. Scott |
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Those TT's are the ultimate "daily-driver supercars"... It appears that the 996TT has become the new 'Supra Turbo'. The amount of power that can be coaxed out of that motor is just incredible, second only to how much it costs to do so... I would love to get an '02X50 and a few mods...but I'm not looking for that divorce just yet... Good luck with the M, TomK
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Thank You, let's hope the 09 is a little more reliable then the new 08 I bought. P.S. for the poster waiting for the M3 from the mommy, I bought my son a new Honda Civic SI for his graduation present, and he is thrilled to death with it. I worked over 30 years before I was able to afford these type of cars, and sold my beloved car only to benefit my son for his eduction. In the final analysis, cars are only 4 wheels and a gas tank. Do good in school, get a job and then go buy your own car. You will feel better about it then! oh oh that kid is on another thread sorry. Under who's waiting for the new Idrive. Can someone cut and paste the P.S. part to the correct thread, don't know how to insert just a paragraph. Thanks. IMHO Last edited by Captain Scott; 08-31-2008 at 12:04 PM.. |
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same dilemma ... 996 TT or new M3, went new M3 cause the maintenance costs on the 996 would be crazy i reckoned, and what people adviced ... the clutch is something to look out for on the 996, that's what people told me ...
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I too considered a 997 when deciding on my M. I had an opportunity to buy an '07 with just 6K on the clock for 54 thousand dollars from my BMW dealer (997 was traded on an M3). I had it for a 4 DAY test drive.
I was not impressed. Granted, it was "just" a straight 997, not the S, and it was not heavily optioned, but I was very disappointed. Noisy, rough ride, not at all smooth, and lacking in the power department... not to mention a cheap plastic interior and pathetic radio. I gave the car back with a very different perception than when I took it. My M3 would eat that car alive. As for the 996... wouldn't ever own one. Those cars are depreciating so fast it is frightening. You won't be able to GIVE that car away a year from now. |
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You can actually pick up a pretty nice used gt3 for around 60 or 70 thousand dollars. Id much rather track that bad boy then a used turbo. |
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one thing I must say have a friend with a 997 turbo and yes it is expensive to mod, he has 27k in it but he has about 650 hp. Feels like it'll do high 10's on street tires, and it takes a hell of a beating, he drives it like he stole it everyday, only thing that's problematic with that much HP is his clutch and he had to go with an a/market clutch, bad thing it engages too sharply. |
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besides your talking about a 996 GT3, I was looking for a 997 GT3, big difference in price. Last edited by spearfisher; 11-27-2008 at 10:21 AM.. |
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I struggled with a similar question for several months.
I ended up trading my c4 cab for a e90. The e 90 is certainly a much more comfortable daily driver, albeit not nearly as comfortable in wet weather. The problem with the Pcar is the high operating cost. Greater than 2k per year. This combined with the depreciation (2.5k per year minimum) makes the m3 a better financial decision. Particularly with the current 0.9 financing. |
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