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11-02-2013, 06:35 AM | #1 |
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I'm looking for something better than OEM street pads. I track maybe twice a year if I ever can get out to Deming Speedway and mainly will take advantage of some mountian switch backs so I'm looking for pads that will have most of the initial bite and quietness of OEM street but that can handle light track use. I'm not too worried about dust. Dust is dust but I don't want pads that are squeeling like crazy. Hawk Performance looks like it has a good selection compared to others but I'd like some feedback on what your experiances are. Cheers, RB |
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I, now, switch to track pads when I go to a track day with more than 40 mins of drive time. obtw, So glad I opened your thread!! I am moving to NM and was getting depressed because of leaving Germany and all the great tracks around here. I just discovered that the track you mentioned is about 2 hours from where I'll live ...
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11-02-2013, 09:40 AM | #3 |
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depends what you mean by light track use. only going twice a year but being super fast still demands a track pad. if you are in fact only going that often seems like it would be easy to just switch to a track pad couple times a year. it will squeal on you but will also not create pad deposits and huge shudder problem like most street pads especially oem. if your a beginner the the stoptech st pad should work but intermediate or above you will smoke those as well. i liked the ferodo ds2500 but it is pretty noisy but easy on the rotors and i just left them in all the time.
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Not to highjack the tread but the hawk HP+ pads havent worked well for me, first track day they were fine but the second track day they left high amounts of pad deposits. Now im looking into what I need next, and the hawks still have 75%...
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What I ment is I would like to run with pads that'll hold up better than the OEM pads. I've experianced the OEM pads on tracks, especially Nurburngring where there it was very evident of the pad material melting onto the disc face and there was a good deal of fade and "griddy" vibration for a few hundred Km until the pad material wears off with normal street driving. I currently have an APracing BBK installed and experianced AP's capability on the track too, which is more than enough for me. But I will have to go back to OEM brakes for a while (testing purposes) so I'd like pads that can hold up better than OEM is what I'm after. Hope that clears that up. Last edited by BimmerRob08; 11-03-2013 at 08:23 AM.. |
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11-03-2013, 08:26 AM | #10 | |
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Yeah it's all about what you feel comfortable with. OEM pads are for the most part good enough but I did not feel very confident pushing on the track with 100% OEM. But anyway, I got a buddy that's got HAWK street pads on his Mustang and says he's very happy with their performance so might go that route. I hope though, after I'm done with some work on my M3, I can go back to my AP's. Those brakes are amazing. Cheers, |
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11-03-2013, 08:40 PM | #11 |
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What Hawk pads were you looking at OP?
HPS SUCK balls for the track. You can die from them on the track. HP+ are not too great on the street. Loud and lots of sticky dust. .
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11-03-2013, 09:12 PM | #12 |
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I would recommend just changing pads.
The most popular pads are Pagid yellows, Performance Friction PF01s or 08s, and a couple of others. Which one is the best? My opinion is people tend to like and recommend the first track pad (or similar characteristics) they started on. My first track pad were PF01s. Love them. Don't like Pagid Yellows. Others love the Yellows and don't like the PF01s. I do KNOW the Hawk Performance Ceramics are terrible. Tore through a new set during my first DE ever.
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I was thinking of either the Hawk Street Performance yellow or blue pads. But sounds like their not all great from what you experianced. So not sure what to get. |
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There are a lot of different hawk pads available...not sure which ones are better for track use.
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OP, what do you think you'll end up doing?
I'm in the same boat, I don't want to swap (mostly cuz im lazy & not that mechanically inclined) for the 2-3 track days I'll do/year. But I think the OEM suck on the track, I had to cut the day short because they basically stopped working. I think it was a combination of heat and material build up on the rotors, idk. Anyway, I'd like a pad that will survive a track day. less dust would be nice, but I'd prioritize good cold bite & no noise for a performance street pad. Is there really no good compromise? I was 80% convinced on the stoptech pads, but apparently they're no good? FYI I have heard from many people on the boards here and experts @ shops & people at the track that the hawk's suck ass. Definitely NOT the way to go. I've heard universally good things about pagids, but its a track pad and they're $$$.
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I'm running Cool Carbon brake pads for street. I swap the fronts out for Project Mu pads but I leave the Cool Carbons in back. Seems to hold up well and it's quiet on street.
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OEM pads are pretty good....where have you experienced them being inadequate?
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