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      05-10-2009, 12:03 PM   #23
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Thank you all for the help. I have requested the test to be done for the Type 1 and Type 2 over-revs. Does anybody have any experience requesting these tests by a dealer before purchasing?
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      05-10-2009, 05:43 PM   #24
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Bump for question above.
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      05-11-2009, 08:47 AM   #25
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Just got a response from the dealer about running the test for the over-revs. Here is what he said:

"I just spoke with our shop foreman. BMW removed the individual dealer's ability to see that type of data from the DME - possibly as long ago as the E36 model. Our shop foreman will contact our BMW representative to see if they will access the data and provide it to us. "

Does this sound right to you guys? Isn't there a way for one of their techs to get into the car's computer to see if there have been any over-revs?

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      05-11-2009, 10:27 AM   #26
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Hey Mike,
Not sure how far you are into purchase, but there's a dealer up in Col that has two leftover 08's. Let me know if you're interested.
Good luck!
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      05-11-2009, 11:07 AM   #27
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dealer w/ 08

Hpoint, which dealership? I am in columbus area and looking for an 08. thanks
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      05-12-2009, 09:32 AM   #28
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It's at MAG. Ask for John Zimmerman. He's like the "M guy". He takes vacations at the PCD center.
If he doesn't take care of you let me know!
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      05-12-2009, 10:41 AM   #29
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So, they are having a BMW rep come out and hook up his computer to the car to scan for any over-revs. However, the dealer is telling me that the rep is only going to verbally tell them the results and won't put anything into writing. This seems very sketchy. What do you guys think? Am I being paranoid?
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      05-12-2009, 02:37 PM   #30
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So, they are having a BMW rep come out and hook up his computer to the car to scan for any over-revs. However, the dealer is telling me that the rep is only going to verbally tell them the results and won't put anything into writing. This seems very sketchy. What do you guys think? Am I being paranoid?
Personally, I expect the dealer either has, or will balk at going to great lengths to get you this type of info, especially after you've worked them hard on the price. The car is an M3 demo, assume it has seen the worst at some point (high revs on a cold engine, powershifts, etc.), and make your decision accordingly. The car has a factory warranty, but since you won't be dealing with the selling dealer for service, the potential is there for issues later on. These cars are pretty robust, and the car will likely be fine, but if the thought that the car was run hard is going to bother you just walk away. In the end, $50K is still a ton of money to commit to a car, and it should be everything that you want it to be.

IMO, you can't expect to have it all in this kind of purchase. If you want a perfect car, order a new one for standard or euro delivery with the good financing deals. If you want a great deal, accept that your car had a life before you that may not have been an easy one, and revel in the fact that you let someone else eat a bunch of initial depreciation.

I went through this 3 months ago when I picked up my 135. It had sat on a lot in PA for 9 months, and wasn't perfect cosmetically. But with a lease payment that was $225 a month cheaper than a new '09 model, I accepted the minor issues, and couldn't be happier.

Good luck with the decision, let us know how things turn out.
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      05-15-2009, 02:12 PM   #31
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Well, here are the results from the BMWNA tech:

Mileage: 1,589 miles

Max rpm recorded: 8,507 @ 1,340 miles

Redline: 8400 rpm

Max allowable rpm: 8,800 rpm



What do you guys make of this?
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      05-15-2009, 02:26 PM   #32
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      05-15-2009, 02:28 PM   #33
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What do you make of that rev data they provided me?
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      05-16-2009, 09:34 AM   #34
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Bump for the question above about the over-rev report.
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