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And I'm sure CS fanboys will be quick to forget this part of the 2009 article: "What's most striking about the Porsche Cayman S Vehicle Dynamics Score is that it doesn't appear to be remarkable at all. It took turning off our elaborate test equipment and simply wrapping our hands on its steering wheel to finally get the picture ... And when the results were compiled, our affection for the Cayman S became starkly apparent.""Affection" is not hard evidence. The truth is, for most of us, the car is not the limiting factor. It's true that the average driver will probably feel more comfortable testing the limit in a Cayman, simply because it's lower and smaller. But that doesn't say much about the car's objective performances. Last edited by drivendriver; 08-28-2009 at 01:00 PM.. |
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08-28-2009, 12:55 PM | #48 |
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Dunno, but seems like M3 is substantially faster around Nurburgring than the new and old Cayman S (being driven by no less than Walter Rohrl):
M3 E92: 8:05 (Sport Auto) Cayman S (New): 8:10 (Walter Rohrl) Cayman S (Old): 8:25 (Sport Auto) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times |
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The problem is that you're trying to turn a very subjective article into some kind of law. Just because MT is in love with the CS doesn't mean that everyone has to be. Expressing a preference for the M3 (or whatever car) doesn't make anyone a "dumb fanboy". Note that you were the first one in this thread to use terms like "dumb", "fanboy" or "bullshit". Actually, had it not been for the "dumb fanboy" comment, I would have ignored your posts.
And please define "driving experience". My definition is simple: it's what I experience when I'm at the wheel. What you experience may be different. That's fine. I won't make you read an article to change your mind. Also, believe it or not, I wasn't born an M3 fanboy. I actually dreamed of owning a Porsche for a long time. And then I drove a Lotus Elise, and owning a Porsche didn't seem that important anymore. If you haven't driven a Lotus yet, you should try it. It puts things in perspective--at least it did for me. And when I started looking for a successor to my Elise, I drove both a Cayman S and an M3. They were similarly priced, so I could have bought either. I picked the M3 because I liked it better, and I don't feel dumb at all about that. |
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Anyway, this is my last post in this thread.
I am open minded. Last week-end, after reading the MT article, I actually went to a Porsche dealer. I drove a 06 Cayman S and a 07 base Carrera. I didn't insist on driving new cars because I knew I wasn't going to buy one. But based on these test drives, I have no regret about buying the M3, although I liked the Carrera quite a lot. But I realize that a street test drive doesn't mean much. So if anyone offers to let me drive his Cayman S at VIR over Labor Day week-end, I will oblige! |
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I test drove the Cayman S when it was released few years ago, though it carried the Porsche badge, it didn't impress me. I had more fun driving my 05 EVO than driving it. Another statement I can't live with is that, if a 911 pulled up next to me, that driver must be thinking this poor Asian can't afford an 911, thus went for the lesser model. To me, driving a Porsche means something unique, so anything less than a GT3 won't do it for me. At the end, you are driving a Porsche, why settle for something that a grandma can handle?
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08-29-2009, 02:37 AM | #53 |
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GT3 or C2S is the real deal, Cayman S isn't even a cheap porsche. It is an expensive while half assed car. I am sure it will be a good drive but it just aint worth the money. OP will be much better off with a M3 or a slightly used C2S.
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In fact he has openly said that given the same power and equipment that the Cayman would easily be quicker than the GT3 or any other ultra-high performance version of the 911. |
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So you're talking w/o having even driven the car. Posters like you are valuable indeed...
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I like the m3 exaust note better. no v6/i6 can beat the sound of a high rev v8. the high rev v8 will have a combination of low rev rumble and scream at the same time. But the v6/i6 just simply scream, no rumble.
like this or this. You don't even need to rev to redline to hear that glorious exaust note. I say the only problem with the m3 is the weight. But that is understandable because it is built to seat 4-5 peoples comfortably and must meet crash test standard. It is a bigger car as well. If you strip this car, 2 seats, bbk, and firmer coilover. the m3 will be a beast. But for me and majority of m3 owners, the 4 seats is something we cannot give up. I cannot see myself in a cayman s because I always have my kid and wife with me at the same time. There are so many time that my parents, my brother, etc get a ride in my car. so to give up the m3 for the cayman s, I think it is not worth it to most m3 owner because the performance is not night and day different. In some case the m3 excels such as the exaust note or straight line highway speed. On the other hand, the cayman have better handling due to the mid engine and much lighter weight. However, if it is the gt3, then i may have to sacrify the practicality and keep the m3 for the family occasion. It wouldn't make too much sense to have the m3 and the cayman s at the same time. m3 and gt3 is the proper combo. Last edited by graider; 08-29-2009 at 06:05 PM.. |
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