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09-28-2012, 04:32 PM | #1 |
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E90 LCI Taillight LED's failed
Just thought I'd share what happened on my 2009 E90 M3. Build date is July 2009.
About a month ago, I noticed the bank of turn-signal LEDs on my left taillights flickered whenever I unlocked the doors. Upon closer inspection, 3 out of the ~15 LED's appeared to be really dim compared to the rest. Then I started getting the "left rear turn signal malfunction" message intermittently whenever I used the blinkers. Anyway, long story short, I brought the car to the dealer and they replaced both Left and Right outer taillights under warranty. Below is the TSB (SIB-63-06-10) for this issue. According to the TSB, the cause of failure is internal corrosion. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...S&type=VEHICLE
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09-28-2012, 06:16 PM | #2 |
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My 2009 E90 335i had the same issue and it just started last week on the M3. Same as your's, both units on the 335 were replaced and I expect the same will be done on the M.
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09-29-2012, 09:01 AM | #3 |
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I guess this is a semi-common problem that will start creeping up as our cars get older. I did a quick google search and found postings of this issue across several different E90 forums. I hope the replacement parts have this corrosion issue resolved!
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09-29-2012, 12:31 PM | #5 |
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Don't think that'll work. The dealer scanned for stored error codes to confirm the problem.
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11-08-2012, 09:18 PM | #8 |
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11-09-2012, 12:32 AM | #10 |
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^^ That was a really creepy video
I've seen them go out like this from time to time. Since it's a recall they might goodwill it if it's just after warranty. Most 2009 cars will still have a year left of warranty anyway...
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Did the left one last year, and the right one last week.
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LEDs usually have their lifespans rated in 10s of thousands of hours. While you MIGHT have a few premature failures, seeing stips of lights/half of the tail light out means something is going wrong with the wiring. Corrosion makes sense. The good news is that BMW couldn't be charging much more than a few grand for a set of replacment lights, right? |
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11-09-2012, 01:14 PM | #13 |
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The bulletin states 2008-2010. Are we to assume that this issue was corrected and a new glitch was inserted in its place?
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11-09-2012, 02:27 PM | #14 |
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I think it's a fair assumption to make that BMW corrected this problem. Otherwise, they would keep losing money on warranty repairs.
Also, I think the outer taillight assemblies cost around $400 for the pair. The full set goes for $600 new.
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07-02-2013, 04:07 PM | #15 |
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Argghh....grumble grumble.
Just got a call from the dealer and of course this issue isn't covered under the CPO warranty. With labor I'll be out $560 for this known issue. I should probably look around now to find a cheaper source for the other side (drivers) which I presume will go out at some point... |
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03-04-2015, 10:38 PM | #18 |
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OK so I AM bumping this old thread on purpose.
Anyone with an extended warranty have their LED replaced under warranty? Maybe specifically MaxCare? |
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Well I ended up just buying a replacement and will swap it in myself. Carmax gave me a very uneasy feeling that it wouldn't be covered and the dealer cost of $100 deductible was about the same for me to just replace it myself. The dealer was not convinced that it would be covered anyway.
I still have my appointment at the dealer scheduled in case people on the forum that have gone through this chime in and give me a warm fuzzy. |
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So I ended up buying a replacement on Rockauto. With shipping, it was less than $70. Installed it tonight and it honestly looks like OEM.
My deductible from Carmax would have been $50 IF they covered it and the dealer deductible would have been $100 IF they covered it. Meh. Canceling both appointments now. |
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03-12-2015, 08:43 AM | #21 |
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I have an '09 sedan and the dealer told me it's not covered under my extended warranty. I have the platinum plan throgh BMW. I tried to tell them how I have read about the corrosion issues etc. apparently it's not registered in their system as one of the recalls or "service bulletins" (or similar).
I ended up buying the set, as they are sold in pairs and replaced both myself. Parts were about $130 this past December. Very easy and fast to replace yourself.
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Hi guys I am a newb and need some info on the daylight running lights. I notices that the halos and the led strip in the back are on every time I drive the car. Can this cause a premature wear on the led tail lights. Anyway to turn this feature off.
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