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No one knows what the DCT holds in store..Im sure the SMG guys were saying their trans was the best ever built, up until all the problems yrs later, The one truth is MT will face less issues.. simplicity=reliabilty. |
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On Thursday I took delivery of my 2013 Space Gray Coupe with DCT. I REALLY like it!
Having had SMG and MT M3s in the past, I have to say it's the best transmission I've ever driven. I didn't believe the dealer when he said that the "auto" mode was fun too. He was right. I never drive a car in automatic mode, but this one is really responsive. Happy guy. |
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There's no doubt that I still like the feel of a manual - there's a satisfaction in rows the gears and practicing heel/toe. For me that'll probably never go away. But after a few months of driving this transmission I knew i'd never go back ... at least for my main car. Maybe if I get a "fun car" that I drive for old timey sake but ... Driving a DCT M3 manually, once you get a few months in, is really a completely new car experience. It's hard for me to see how 99% of drivers - if they drove this for a few months - wouldn't prefer it. Of course there's always the people that lie about what they prefer - they wear fuzzy slippers only when nobody is looking |
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11-11-2012, 06:59 PM | #119 |
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I own a 6MT and have extensively driven DCT cars. Both have transmissions have their + and -.
To be honest, transmission choice wasn't even in my top 3 priorities when I was looking for my used car. Actually, I never even drove an MT M3 before I took delivery of mine! The absolute biggest advantage for me is lack of complexity of the MT. I plan to keep the car for years and years to come. Definitely well past how long the MT will last. On top of that, how fitting is it that my car will be last NA engine matted to a MT? Went out for a drive after on Friday, and it's such a mind clearing experience. Having said all this, I will have a DCT car in my garage (think F10 M5 at the end of its life cycle ). I'm just really glad that my M3 is not one of them.
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A harsh "kick in the pants" upshift may give the illusion of high performance but in reality is about the last thing you should want a transmssiong to do as it will unsettle the car.
An ideal tranmission would shift geats instanly and smoothly and the closer that a transmission can approach that the the better it is, CA |
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11-11-2012, 10:35 PM | #121 |
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That's a really smart idea, but not really. Jordan is one of the best basketball players ever and I don't have to watch every game ever played to formulate this opinion.
I made the decision to buy this car before I ever even drove a BMW. I read the reviews of many people and nearly all of them said the same thing. The engine and transmission are awesome. I have no regrets, but maybe I will change my mind when the warranty runs out and things start breaking. |
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11-12-2012, 12:45 AM | #123 | |
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In the period of just over 1 year I had 3 e92 cars (2011 MT car was slightly used, then a 2012 MT new an finally a 2011 new DCT). You might ask why change from a 2012 to a 2011, well the wife wanted to go from 2 cars to only 1 car, then changed her mind. Not that I care (for about four weeks the discussion was between my m3 or our dd and in the end I won to keep the m3 only change to the DCT since the wife does not touch a MT) so it's all good. As for the transmission, I like both, only now I like the DCT better not because I am over 70 oh no I simply love the marvel of engineering and the smoothness of shifts as well as the options one has to use the stick, the paddles or leave it to the computer. BTW ... Some posters here hint to the "elderly" to drive the DCT ... I can only say I drove my share of MT in my life, then let us be hornets, how many times did we shift into the wrong gear or even stall the car ... Let them ask the self that question .... I have a few times and I am not a shamed to admit it.
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And long after there is peace in the Middle East, this thread will likely still be going.
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I owned a 6mt and drove a DCT as well, and similar to folks here, the DCT just didn't do it for me. It's without a doubt the DCT is the "better" transmission, but I felt the DCT simply made it too easy and less engaging. There's a certain driving satisfaction and visceral effect that comes from shifting on your own, and just getting that heel-toe just right before a turn, etc.
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Choose the transmission *you* want. If you want to be more "involved/engaging" (whatever that means) and you think the 6MT will give you that then go for it. The car is full of electronics. If you feel the need to prove you are more of a man, turn DSC off instead of referencing the DCT as an "automatic".
My DCT at the track, think you can do this with a 6MT? Unless your name is Leh Keen, good luck. P.S. I still row my own gears in my DD and do it better than you. |
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Not familiar with the track but looked like a nice lap, btw.
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Very interesting (spoken with a German accent like Sargent Schulz in the TV series Starlock 13).
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The fellow without the good caddy selects his own club and as we all know that play the game ... At times the wrong one ... Lets admit it we all done it ... And end up in the sand trap or the woods. So then like the one with the MT might shift into the wrong gear ... And stall even ... I've done it so have others they just don't like to admit it Forgive the typos ... Created this on my iPhone
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