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12-05-2007, 02:54 PM | #1 |
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Frustrating: No US pricing or DCT announcement
I find it very frustrating that BMW still has not announced pricing or anything about DCT.
It's ridiculous that there's no pricing yet they are taking orders. About the DCT transmission, I’m beginning to wonder if they are having some issues with it and thus the reason there's been no mention of it other than what is referenced in the magazine articles. |
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yeah no doubt bmw is being shady, but we know they have to release this information eventually because, in the end, they want us to buy their cars so they make money. there has already been a lot of talk about this on this forum, but bmw is probably trying to gather as much data on the US economy and also info about how m3 sales are doing in countries where it is already available. the pricing is a touchy subject and they don't want to screw it up. as far as DCT goes, bmw has done an excellent job of keeping this secret. we have hardly seen any (i can't even remember seeing one) picture of what the DCT setup is going to look like in the car. but eventually it is going to happen...patience is key!
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12-05-2007, 05:52 PM | #3 | |
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BTW...there has been only one picture that I have seen on DCT in the interior. The pic was taken of a test mule in Southern CA where the interior was covered up. Even then, who knows what was under the covering. |
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12-05-2007, 06:32 PM | #4 | |
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Plus, BMW never gave any info about DCT except that it would eventually be available. All the march predictions are from rumors and have absolutely no concrete source. Knowing this, its possible BMW isn't behind on the system at all and is moving on normally. If you dwell on something your mind has a tendency to take the worst case scenario and blow it out of proportion. Which only gets worse as your education on the subject increases, aka the mitsubishi rumor on the Evo X DCT. |
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12-05-2007, 07:55 PM | #5 | ||
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The documentation we have is from BMW UK (a subsidiary) not from BMW GmbH nor BMW M. The document claims, Quote:
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12-06-2007, 02:44 AM | #6 |
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12-06-2007, 03:21 AM | #7 | |
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Even still however, an appearance in a car show does not mean immediate production I'm afraid. The M3 concept was seen at the last Geneva convention and it didn't hit production in Europe until sept/October-ish. |
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12-06-2007, 03:37 AM | #8 | |
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12-06-2007, 03:42 AM | #9 |
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While it all sounds very convincing (I hope it's true), I don't suppose you could ask that Swiss dealer for any proof eh?
Only because dealerships are notorious for being full of it. |
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12-06-2007, 04:06 AM | #10 |
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I know that dealers don't know sh*t and just try to make a quick sale. That's why I talked to a guy from BWM Switzerland AG at a M3 test driving event.
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12-06-2007, 06:38 AM | #11 | |
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The thing is even if it debuts in Geneva, and goes on sale in Europe soon after, we still don't know how that will translate to US availability. |
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12-06-2007, 07:06 PM | #12 |
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That is definitly ONE thing that I like and respect about MBZ USA.
As soon as a new model comes out (C, E, CLS, C, CL, etc.) they release the AMG version and pricing moderatly quick (though the C63 price is still under wraps). Why can't BMW be like that?
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12-06-2007, 07:25 PM | #13 | |
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Perhaps they are waiting for the Holidays market results to better appreciate what's really going on in the economy. Or just perhaps BMW learned something about having to discount the Z4 M, the M5 and the M6 thru lease incentives and straight cash. We all only know that they just want to make some profit while selling some 100,000 M3 worldwide... I would take my time if I were BMW also. |
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12-06-2007, 07:55 PM | #14 |
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Well, you buy cars with money, right? If money is tight for a considerable amount of people then a considerable amount of new cars -especially at this level- are not going to be sold... that's nothing new, right?
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12-06-2007, 08:07 PM | #15 |
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I was told by my dealer (who works at a BMW owned dealership...maybe the only one? in Manhattan) that the pricing will be released during this month....we shall see.
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12-06-2007, 08:16 PM | #16 |
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I have not read that they want to move as many C63's as BMW M3's, do you?
Actually, I did read somewhere that the total of AMGs sold last year worldwide was something around 30,000. Just in case, Lexus only expect to sell a total of some 3000 IS-F next year in the USA. To be honest, the level of car enthusiasts in this forum -not bimmerheads, there's a big difference IMO- is simply sad... |
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But I guess that money and the overall economy is no issue at least for you, so good for you. |
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BMW knows what you will pay and when you need the info. Of that I'm sure. I would suspect they have the behavior of consumers and people like us all graphed out on some wall chart in their marketing war room. They have all the money and time in the world to spend on researching you and I, we just have time for bitching...and bitching is free.
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