Over 70K Miles on Original Throttle Actuators?

Theodore · 01-19-2016, 01:27 PM

I've read nearly all the threads on failing throttle actuators, but I'm interested to know one thing barely discussed in those threads: Have many people have managed to exceed 70K miles or more without a throttle actuator replacement? Or is it just about inevitable they will go by the time the car hits 70K?

Edit: If you've passed 70k can you share your driving style/environment? Feather the throttle often, never light on the throttle, tend to drive in lower gear/higher revs, mostly city, mostly highway, etc.

rcracin · 01-19-2016, 01:55 PM

I thought they went out at the 40-50k mark

Rat3d ///M · 01-19-2016, 02:07 PM

one of mine just went out at 50k. Hoping the other one lasts longer but I am banking on having to replace both.

dparm · 01-19-2016, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcracin

I thought they went out at the 40-50k mark

Plenty of cars that have gone far longer. There are probably a bunch that have never been replaced.

I am nudging 70k on the originals. Just keep driving until they cause a problem. It's not really a routine maintenance item that you should throw money at.

ChiTownM · 01-19-2016, 02:46 PM

I like reading their magazine, lot of bickering about the new bimmers, funny to read. Every now and then there is a good article too. If you plan on doing a BMW performance event, you will get great discount too. I haven't done track days with them yet.

rcracin · 01-19-2016, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dparm

Plenty of cars that have gone far longer. There are probably a bunch that have never been replaced.

I am nudging 70k on the originals. Just keep driving until they cause a problem. It's not really a routine maintenance item that you should throw money at.

Oh i wouldnt change as preventative. My bank 1 went out at 48k. I only changed that one.

vincE92M3 · 01-19-2016, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rcracin

I thought they went out at the 40-50k mark

Both mine went out within a thousand miles of 41,5xx.

nholmes · 01-19-2016, 03:05 PM

So, the car I purchased had no codes but was on the original actuators with 103k on them.

I had Alex@Alpine tune my DCT and come other simple coding. As soon as we finished and I ran the car a few miles, Bank 1 took a dump.

I'm sure the actuator was already roasted, just the dealership selling the car hid the error code or something (still learning the platform). I finished swapping both of them last week with new actuators and upgraded reduction gears from alpina-527.

Richsocal12 · 01-19-2016, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dparm

Plenty of cars that have gone far longer. There are probably a bunch that have never been replaced.

I am nudging 70k on the originals. Just keep driving until they cause a problem. It's not really a routine maintenance item that you should throw money at.

what is driving your style like?

PandaM3 · 01-19-2016, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richsocal12

Quote:

Originally Posted by dparm

Plenty of cars that have gone far longer. There are probably a bunch that have never been replaced.

I am nudging 70k on the originals. Just keep driving until they cause a problem. It's not really a routine maintenance item that you should throw money at.

what is driving your style like?

80,000 miles on the original actuators.

It's a manual so I don't mash on the throttle so maybe that helps. I also don't run the most aggressive throttle setting either.

I did have an issue 40,000 miles ago where the engine went into low power mode and the dash lit up like a Christmas tree.
- I was going up hill
- sitting in traffic so I wasn't very deliberate with the throttle

I shut the car off and turned it back on again and all was normal with no lights.

I did have a code that I cleared and it did relate to the throttle actuator... But that was 40,000 miles ago

Since then I try to be more deliberate with the throttle rather than feathering it. At the same time I don't mash it but rather roll the throttle on smoothly and quickly.

8600RPM · 01-19-2016, 05:54 PM

My last 2012 m3 had 100k miles and no parts at all replaced

redpriest · 01-19-2016, 06:26 PM

116k miles on originals, 19 track days. Always rev out to 8600 rpm when warm; no issues with throttle actuators.

Have had other engine stuff fail though:
* valve train tensioner at 114k
* engine coolant temperature sensor 116k (maybe? Will know for sure tomorrow)

Frozen · 01-19-2016, 07:07 PM

Both of mine went out around 55k.

Denk · 01-19-2016, 08:02 PM

My buddy has over 125K miles on his and is still on originals, bearings too.

Move Over · 01-19-2016, 11:39 PM

69k on mine, no issues.

terry · 01-20-2016, 01:53 PM

93,000 miles on mine. No issues neither. Manual transmission. A mix of city and highway. I push her from time to time when engine is warm. Solid car

besiktas · 01-20-2016, 04:43 PM

one went out on 62k

Shredicus · 01-20-2016, 05:08 PM

I'm at 77k but I've noticed some granularity in the throttle at low RPMs/Idle so I'm guessing I may have some tooth wear in that area of the actuators. No error codes though so odometergear retrofit might be on the agenda.

ijnoj09 · 01-20-2016, 05:15 PM

mine went out before i hit 10k

Mr. BMW · 01-20-2016, 06:42 PM

Would the CPO warranty cover these?

nholmes · 01-20-2016, 06:44 PM

7 years or 70k IIRC:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=900020

ijnoj09 · 01-20-2016, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nholmes

7 years or 70k IIRC:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=900020

good to know

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