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02-21-2013, 02:22 PM | #1 | |
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I was searching in PPM (Pure Performance Motorsport) site and found out they have a stroker kit for our cars. I don't know if it's a repost or not. It's nothing new though since the site shows they have had it since December 2011.
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02-21-2013, 02:54 PM | #3 |
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Yeah it's DIY meaning you have to disassemble the motor, send the block off to be machined, reassemble with the new parts and tune...probably a $5k+ job depending on what shop you go to.
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02-21-2013, 03:15 PM | #4 |
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You are right. But if you actually look at what both Dinan and RD Sport do and how much money they ask for it, this DIY stroker still looks like a bargain. RD Sport RS46 treatment costs $32,800 (Stroker, headers, exhaust, tune). Dinan's S3-R package costs $31,200 (2mm extra bore, stroker kit, exhaust, tune, intake, pully, ported throttle bodies)
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02-21-2013, 03:15 PM | #5 |
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84 x 92.0 = 4.46L
84 x 92.5 = 4.52L 84 x 93.0 = 4.56L 84 x 94.0 = 4.66L $9k seems way too cheap. Pictures show rods aren't Carrillo, and pistons aren't Mahle. You get what you pay for ! |
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02-21-2013, 03:38 PM | #6 | |
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I would not say that is cheap for a stroker parts only kit... since u own a bmw u r most likely getting ripped off on the parts you bought. |
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02-21-2013, 08:20 PM | #7 | |
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The S65 is only in an M3 but a GM LS for example is in almost every GM vehicle under the sun....... of course our parts will cost more. |
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02-21-2013, 08:43 PM | #8 |
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So I guess the custom billet cranks, rods and pistons I order for my race engines is not low volume... I really do not care to argue but when someone says "the pistons and rods are not carrillo and mahle", does not mean whatever is being used is shit. Just because thats what ESS uses in their built engines doesnt mean its the best thing on the planet and the only thing you can run. I run carrillo rods in my engines but there are many equivalent alternatives out there.
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Depends what you have for a race engine?
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Haven't found another company that can match the behavior of the Mahle piston,also compatibility with the Alusil cylinder walls. Now if i would sleeve my block and ditch the Alusil,yea i can go for any reputable piston brand i want. Nothing beats Mahle IMO in the S65 unless proven wrong. |
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02-22-2013, 09:30 AM | #17 |
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Being that this is a engine that is not on every street corner I would choose what is known to work, if the mahle pistons and carrillo rods work thats what I would use. Now is mahle and carrillo the best, ABSOLUTELY not. Mahle is mediocre and carrillo really are not high end anymore. No high spec race engines use carrillo anymore. Period.
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yea really... people act like they are reinventing the wheel here by just adding a modified piston to lower compression and replacing some components with higher strength ones. Now if we were building some custom 9300++ RPM S65(The higher the better for me ) and really started modifying the drivetrain I could justify high costs and would buy one. For what those people are payin for stroker engines and built LC engines and what they are getting out of it is disappointing in my eyes. To each their own. |
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As for the alusil block, Honestly i don't know what's the deal is with the Alusil block and what's the right piston for it. But the S62 has been around for sometimes and it seems it's doing good with aftermarket pistons. Wish we had more S62 specialists in here. |
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In this case, being cheaper isn't really better until all the facts are out there. Last edited by THE TECH; 02-23-2013 at 09:34 AM.. |
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From what i read, it sounds like img did his research and was open to options and learned a few things that made him feel it was best for his M3 to be paired with Carrillo and Maehle. If I was considering such mods, I would be asking img to gain whatever knowledge i could since he has spent a lot of time making decisions beyond price of parts and names of manufacturers.
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