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and a fully loaded M-3 cost $86,337 plus tax plus registration= mid 90's
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The exhaust and engine note is deep, just very different to having a high pitch or having to wait until 5500 rpms to get any torque. No need to rev that high, it puts real torque and real power much sooner... |
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This whole thing about BMW and C63 is a back and forth personal opinions. Some people purchased a M-3 because of slightly better handling. Some people purchase C63 for better seats, some people purchased M-3 for being able to have a 6 speed manual transmission, others prefer the 7 Speedshit plus transmission from the benz. Like I said, there is a compromise between the two. I walked away with a well loaded C63 for $53000(with $5000 in options). I had a great deal from USAA, Mercedes headquarters offers thousands in disccounts for USAA members. BMW offers free maintenance. We can keep going on an on. One brand offers something that the other don't. |
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All cars in the world have body roll. There is a compromise between comfort, body roll, performance. It is OK to have some boddy roll. What is wrong with the navigation pop up? many many cars have it that way. 99% of the cars in the market use plastics for their interiors unless you drive a Roll Royce or Maybach or some Lambo with Suede dash. Be more realistic my friend, don't just be a hater without a good solid reason. I have seen much worst interiors like my 2008 C6 Z06 with much more shitier seats and dash. |
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The M-3 that I configurated here cost $86,337. Add tax+registration= mid $90s http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...LmJ6UxOauWNw== Be more realistic and don't lie to yourself... |
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Woah, calm down there buddy. No need to go on the offensive and get your panties in a bunch. Nobody is dissing your precious C63 AMG. Many here actually like me praise it. Get rid of the attitude. I never said anything about it not being able to do it. I simply stated it was a first. Instead of being an ass, why don't you go learn how to use the multi-quote feature? What are you loading the M3 up with? |
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Both cars are EQUALLY LOADED
Looks to me the AMG is about 4k more expensive. No extended leather on either car. No extra accessories. I have no idea where you got your numbers from. |
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Hot Ice, the MB looks pretty sweet from the buildup. I never thought that I'd like the MB. I think the number is plausible if it was a M3 convertible. I've seen high numbers like that on E93s, not coupes or sedans. Anyhoo, I never considered the C63 AMG but it looks nice and sounds like it goes fast.
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To all you haters out there - you haven't driven one. I owned a 2009 and it was an awesome car. Just crack the throttle without traction control on and you had an awesome burnout. I weighed both at the time. M3 handles much better, but the sound and the usable torque is simply amazing.
That being said I am waiting for my 2011 m3 sedan - but I would never say anything bad about the c63 exept rear tire life was at best 5000 miles |
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$90k?? No way. I have one quoted around $81,000 fully loaded, all in. That is $8,000 less than a fully loaded M3 and almost the same price as a fully loaded car in the US. Seems to me that Mercedes has a smaller price gap US to Canada than BMW does Makes buying a C63 in Canada to be a real bargain compared to the M3.
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I also, agree with Hot=Ice, the c63coupe is slated to be more expensive than the M3, but I think dealers might be more willing to 'deal'...we'll see though. |
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Just test drove the C63
I just got back from test driving the new C63 AMG Coupe about an hour ago. It's a nice car but I still think that the M3 is better. (You can see my M3 in the background) I have the dual clutch on my M3 and it is so smooth, especially when down shifting. When I was driving the C63, you could literally *feel* it downshift with a large thud. Also, this model does not have the LSD or the leather. I am not a real fan of the mb tex upholstery.
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I read somewhere that the new MB tranny shifts in 100 milliseconds, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the the shifts speed of a ferrari 599 (not saying the MB tranny is as good as a ferrari tranny, only talking about pure numbers here)
"At its most aggressive, the 599 GTB's F1-SuperFast transmission is able to shift gears in 100 milliseconds (0.1 second), compared to the 575M's 250 ms, or even the F430's 150 ms. To put this in perspective, current Formula 1 racecars shift in about 50 ms. " taken from: http://www.insideline.com/ferrari/59...iorano-f1.html that would make the shifts speed faster than the outgoing 430!
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1. SKINNY rear tires. You've got 444 ft lbs of torque going to the rear wheels and MB decides to fit 255's!?!?!? Really? 2. The new Speedshift 7 speed is clunky on downshifts. I wrote a brief review on it recently. 3. The damn traction control turns on EVERY SINGLE TIME you go ANYWHERE NEAR the throttle. After about 10 minutes you get fed up with the power being cut so often. In my eyes, these are very significant cons that would steer me away from a C63 AMG Coupe. Quote:
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New C63 coupe bases at $66 900 with the M3 coupe at $71 900. Full load is "only" $82 140 for the Merc while the M3 climbs all the way to $92 100 with DCT. This gap was still the same when I looked at comparable '08's. |
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