KW V3 vs KW Clubsport

ThorPR · 01-25-2010, 01:59 PM

I wanted to see if what the pro's and con's would be to buy one over the other? I'm also interested to see if anybody have any experience with KW's Sway Bars?

I did send an email to KW to see if there are any updates regarding EDC compatibility? I assume the answer will be no but it doesn't hurt to ask.

Reading all the good threads I'm leaning towards the KW but I'm still not at a 100%.

Thanks...

Bob MG · 02-06-2010, 07:18 AM

I just got V3s with EDC delete. I posted a thread on it and there is a PDF doc from KW regarding the modules

Great coilovers

Bob MG · 02-06-2010, 07:19 AM

I just got V3s with EDC delete. I posted a thread on it and there is a PDF doc from KW regarding the modules

Great coilovers
PM me if you need help

rzm3 · 02-06-2010, 12:13 PM

CS has front camber plates, which means more adjustability, but also more NVH.

Spring rates are also different. See here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336450

I think you are a little confused about "EDC compatibility". No one makes EDC compatible coil over kits, and probably no one ever will for the E9x.

What KW has is a EDC emulator so you don't get error lights when you remove factory EDC shocks.

Finally, leave sway bars alone (at least for now). Sway bars are used to fine tune your weight transfer. Get a coil over kit first and play with them first... if that's not good enough go for sway bars.

ThorPR · 02-07-2010, 01:48 AM

Thanks for all the good info. It seems that the V3's are plenty enough for what I need.

Thanks...

Bob MG · 02-08-2010, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThorPR

Thanks for all the good info. It seems that the V3's are plenty enough for what I need.

Thanks...

The sway bars are for adjusting the corner weights to absolute perfection.

I had mine done without sway bars and teh set up was so close to perfect it is evident it is not necessary to go with sway bars. V3s all you need!
Ride is great!

ThorPR · 02-08-2010, 06:28 AM

How would compare the suspension to the stock setup?

Thanks...

Bob MG · 02-08-2010, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThorPR

How would compare the suspension to the stock setup?

Thanks...

Firmer ride when set up with corner weights, unbelievable!!
I like firmer suspension, so I like it better. With a coiliver, the suspension works, so even with 20 inch wheels, it's great. Springs on their own aren't comfortable at all!

I would say ride on my 20s feels like stock edc on hardest setting with 19s

Lemans_Blue_M · 02-08-2010, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rldzhao

CS has front camber plates, which means more adjustability, but also more NVH.

Spring rates are also different. See here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336450

I think you are a little confused about "EDC compatibility". No one makes EDC compatible coil over kits, and probably no one ever will for the E9x.

What KW has is a EDC emulator so you don't get error lights when you remove factory EDC shocks.

Finally, leave sway bars alone (at least for now). Sway bars are used to fine tune your weight transfer. Get a coil over kit first and play with them first... if that's not good enough go for sway bars.

+1000

bunnn · 02-08-2010, 01:14 PM

CS also has no warranty compared to the V3's right? I remember that was one of the reason that made me think twice. Had V3's on my old car, it was plentiful for a few track days + daily driving. I lent them to my friend who had Teins previously, he pleads for me to never take them back.

ThorPR · 02-08-2010, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rldzhao

CS has front camber plates, which means more adjustability, but also more NVH.

Spring rates are also different. See here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336450

I think you are a little confused about "EDC compatibility". No one makes EDC compatible coil over kits, and probably no one ever will for the E9x.

What KW has is a EDC emulator so you don't get error lights when you remove factory EDC shocks.

Finally, leave sway bars alone (at least for now). Sway bars are used to fine tune your weight transfer. Get a coil over kit first and play with them first... if that's not good enough go for sway bars.

I just got done reading this specific thread about the KW V3's. I actually think I'm more confused now because of the opinions/information shared regarding some of the technical aspects of the product.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146467

Also, I never saw KW posting their technical data in order to dispute some of the negative information attacking their products.

Any new input on this?

930Man · 02-08-2010, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewabf

The sway bars are for adjusting the corner weights to absolute perfection.

I had mine done without sway bars and teh set up was so close to perfect it is evident it is not necessary to go with sway bars. V3s all you need!
Ride is great!

what?????? ihave never heard that before in my life.. and have been running at the track for 10 yrs

aus · 02-08-2010, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 930Man

what?????? ihave never heard that before in my life.. and have been running at the track for 10 yrs

I think he's a little confused about the sways.

Bob MG · 02-09-2010, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus

I think he's a little confused about the sways.

I think I am

guy said something about installing something that would make set up 100% perfect to the kg on each corner. I thought it was the sways, mistake.
I don't run on the track, and just like a great setup for road.

Ridzao above said:Finally, leave sway bars alone (at least for now). Sway bars are used to fine tune your weight transfer. Get a coil over kit first and play with them first... if that's not good enough go for sway bars.quote

so I figured that is what the guy at the corner weight place meant.

rzm3 · 02-09-2010, 11:37 PM

Haha. Thanks for being honest.

What I refer to as "weight transfer" is a dynamic issue... whereas corner weight is a static issue. For race cars, it is actually recommended that sway bars be disconnected during corner balancing so that each wheel can be adjusted individually.

Bob MG · 02-10-2010, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rldzhao

Haha. Thanks for being honest.

What I refer to as "weight transfer" is a dynamic issue... whereas corner weight is a static issue. For race cars, it is actually recommended that sway bars be disconnected during corner balancing so that each wheel can be adjusted individually.

I see said the blind man to his deaf daughter

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rzm3 Moderator 673 Rep 4,737 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (18)	CS has front camber plates, which means more adjustability, but also more NVH. Spring rates are also different. See here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336450 I think you are a little confused about "EDC compatibility". No one makes EDC compatible coil over kits, and probably no one ever will for the E9x. What KW has is a EDC emulator so you don't get error lights when you remove factory EDC shocks. Finally, leave sway bars alone (at least for now). Sway bars are used to fine tune your weight transfer. Get a coil over kit first and play with them first... if that's not good enough go for sway bars.
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ThorPR Let's Race 16 Rep 125 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW M3 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Landstuhl, Germany iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all the good info. It seems that the V3's are plenty enough for what I need. Thanks... __________________ 2010 BMW M3 Coupe Alpine White - DCT
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rzm3 Moderator 673 Rep 4,737 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (18)	Haha. Thanks for being honest. What I refer to as "weight transfer" is a dynamic issue... whereas corner weight is a static issue. For race cars, it is actually recommended that sway bars be disconnected during corner balancing so that each wheel can be adjusted individually.
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