Cross shopping E92 M3 and R35 GT-R

DropItLow · 03-25-2012, 01:08 PM

I attempted to provide yet another objective review of the M3 and GT-R. Comments welcome.

http://randominternetthings.blogspot...-r35-gt-r.html

Beemw335 · 03-25-2012, 03:37 PM

Great review, and I agree with everything you said.
I have a 335i and even though my car can be easily tuned to beat an m3 in a straight line, the m3 is more than that. Its an all around daily driver race car, the gtr on the on the other hand ia a street legal race car, Id love to own a gtr while Im still young and own an m3 when Im older.
Nice cars btw!

1MOREMOD · 03-25-2012, 03:43 PM

i just had my first gtr experience yesteday thanks to w00tw00t. hes got a 2010 tuned gtr. i should have never accepted the ride.

THE-FN-MAN · 03-25-2012, 04:34 PM

Is it just me or does the gt-r come off as boring? I've driven two, a modded 2010 and the new 2012 and the car never felt "urgent" or alive I guess you could say. Now granted it was not at a track but both times it was balls out 1st through 3rd and the car never made me sense like I was going fast. Obviously I was but like I said, maybe it's just me but I like the sense of speed and feeling you get from other cars that portray that "feeling" of speed more. Still mad respect for the engineering in it though

HotIce · 03-25-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by THE-FN-MAN

Is it just me or does the gt-r come off as boring? I've driven two, a modded 2010 and the new 2012 and the car never felt "urgent" or alive I guess you could say. Now granted it was not at a track but both times it was balls out 1st through 3rd and the car never made me sense like I was going fast. Obviously I was but like I said, maybe it's just me but I like the sense of speed and feeling you get from other cars that portray that "feeling" of speed more. Still mad respect for the engineering in it though

I think you've got your cars mixed up. The M3 is the car that feels 'lacking' in street conditions until the engine wakes up around 4k. The GT-R feels like it'll tear your face off from idle.

THE-FN-MAN · 03-25-2012, 05:44 PM

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Is it just me or does the gt-r come off as boring? I've driven two, a modded 2010 and the new 2012 and the car never felt "urgent" or alive I guess you could say. Now granted it was not at a track but both times it was balls out 1st through 3rd and the car never made me sense like I was going fast. Obviously I was but like I said, maybe it's just me but I like the sense of speed and feeling you get from other cars that portray that "feeling" of speed more. Still mad respect for the engineering in it though

I think you've got your cars mixed up. The M3 is the car that feels 'lacking' in street conditions until the engine wakes up around 4k. The GT-R feels like it'll tear your face off from idle.

Nope

I love both cars but im
Quite happy with my M's. And agreed the motor does have to be rev'd to "wake up" but I notice my supercharged one wakes up a little sooner

now a Z06, that feels and sounds like it will tear your face off...

1MOREMOD · 03-25-2012, 05:51 PM

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I think you've got your cars mixed up. The M3 is the car that feels 'lacking' in street conditions until the engine wakes up around 4k. The GT-R feels like it'll tear your face off from idle.

yeah i concur. it felt brutally fast. again it was tuned to 600ish hp.

HotIce · 03-25-2012, 06:03 PM

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yeah i concur. it felt brutally fast. again it was tuned to 600ish hp.

I test drove the 2013, I think it was. May of been a 2012 but whatever model year it was, I remember being stuck to the back of the seat from when the car launched to the time I brought it to a stop. It's a true beast.

THE-FN-MAN · 03-25-2012, 06:03 PM

600ish at the tires or motor? Obviously almost anything with that at the tires is gonna be brutally fast. I'm simply trying to say that if you have an M3 and a gtr making the same power that the M3 will be more dramatic because the gtr has the ability to put the power to the ground much better and hence be less of a handful. Just my opinion from my experiences

Kyoshi71 · 03-25-2012, 06:14 PM

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What the M3 lacked was any sort of recognition for the race heritage behind the ///M brand. Sure, car nuts knew the difference and what it was, but at the end of the day the general public is just ignorant to an M3 being any different than a 3-series.

That's exactly why I like it. If you need attention, then you enjoy thumbs-ups, horn honks and kids telling you that you own their dream car.

1MOREMOD · 03-25-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by THE-FN-MAN

600ish at the tires or motor? Obviously almost anything with that at the tires is gonna be brutally fast. I'm simply trying to say that if you have an M3 and a gtr making the same power that the M3 will be more dramatic because the gtr has the ability to put the power to the ground much better and hence be less of a handful. Just my opinion from my experiences

600ish at the motor. exactly the gtr can put the power down so it feels MORE dramatic not less. smoking the tires off the m3 doesnt crush you in the seat its actual acceleration that does that. i wasnt a fan of the seats though and couldnt drive it for long distances.

1MOREMOD · 03-25-2012, 06:26 PM

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That's exactly why I like it. If you need attention, then you enjoy thumbs-ups, horn honks and kids telling you that you own their dream car.

i was at the track yesterday and went for gas and got this exact comment about my m3.

Kyoshi71 · 03-25-2012, 06:32 PM

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i was at the track yesterday and went for gas and got this exact comment about my m3.

At the Track? What were you doing, betting on the horses??

1MOREMOD · 03-25-2012, 06:33 PM

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At the Track? What were you doing, betting on the horses??

not quite. running a TNT day at Pacific Raceways.

Kyoshi71 · 03-25-2012, 06:35 PM

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not quite. running a TNT day at Pacific Raceways.

Sweet Bro

1MOREMOD · 03-25-2012, 06:37 PM

yes it was.

THE-FN-MAN · 03-25-2012, 07:00 PM

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600ish at the tires or motor? Obviously almost anything with that at the tires is gonna be brutally fast. I'm simply trying to say that if you have an M3 and a gtr making the same power that the M3 will be more dramatic because the gtr has the ability to put the power to the ground much better and hence be less of a handful. Just my opinion from my experiences

600ish at the motor. exactly the gtr can put the power down so it feels MORE dramatic not less. smoking the tires off the m3 doesnt crush you in the seat its actual acceleration that does that. i wasnt a fan of the seats though and couldnt drive it for long distances.

I hear ya there man. There's nothing like being pushed into the backseat but I guess I just was expecting more. My buddies is tuned to about 570 at the tires on the crap 91 octane out here in Cali and it just didn't "feel" fast. Maybe it's just me lol sweet car none the less but having my M3 all crossed up and just staying in it feel very dramatic hahaha

DropItLow · 03-26-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by THE-FN-MAN

Is it just me or does the gt-r come off as boring? I've driven two, a modded 2010 and the new 2012 and the car never felt "urgent" or alive I guess you could say. Now granted it was not at a track but both times it was balls out 1st through 3rd and the car never made me sense like I was going fast. Obviously I was but like I said, maybe it's just me but I like the sense of speed and feeling you get from other cars that portray that "feeling" of speed more. Still mad respect for the engineering in it though

The real problem with the GT-R is that it doesn't 'feel' fast for some reason...until you're heads up with another car. because you don't really feel the shifts like in other cars its almost a straight acceleration.

balls out from a dig to third will still be 90ish. The one thing I left out of the review was that the speedo is deceptive - 60mph is straight down. Everyone I've let drive the car hits 90 before the realize they are actually speeding. It's really deceptive just how fast you actually are going.

Did you try the passenger seat for a few pulls? It's a total different experience than actually driving and that might be a better gauge.

DropItLow · 03-26-2012, 08:15 AM

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That's exactly why I like it. If you need attention, then you enjoy thumbs-ups, horn honks and kids telling you that you own their dream car.

Right on - it's just a completely different car. Lets not forget just how sexy the M3 actually is. I've had people call the GT-R a transformer, whale, among other things. I didn't buy it for attention - actually had no idea it would generate the amount that it does - but rather for the tuning it's capable of.

Nine · 03-26-2012, 09:08 AM

Cross shopping a GT-R and an M3 =

If you can afford a GT-R, and all that comes with it. You can afford two M3s.

Sometime I think about owning a GT-R, then I wake up in the middle of the night with a panic attack about the 20k transmission repair cost. Fuuuuuu!!!!!

Optherion · 03-26-2012, 09:40 AM

So youre getting rid of your m3?

I love when magazines call the GT-R soul less. The car has scared me to death many times. Motortrend editors cant get enough of it. They just bought a 2013 for a long term road test. Their 2nd GT-R in ownership.

konaforever · 03-26-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DropItLow

I attempted to provide yet another objective review of the M3 and GT-R. Comments welcome.

http://randominternetthings.blogspot...-r35-gt-r.html

Great review of the two!

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DropItLow Private 2 Rep 82 Posts Drives: 2010 gt-r Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NE PA iTrader: (0)	Cross shopping E92 M3 and R35 GT-R - Review I attempted to provide yet another objective review of the M3 and GT-R. Comments welcome. http://randominternetthings.blogspot...-r35-gt-r.html
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Beemw335 Colonel 62 Rep 2,013 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: My car is my home iTrader: (2)	Great review, and I agree with everything you said. I have a 335i and even though my car can be easily tuned to beat an m3 in a straight line, the m3 is more than that. Its an all around daily driver race car, the gtr on the on the other hand ia a street legal race car, Id love to own a gtr while Im still young and own an m3 when Im older. Nice cars btw!
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THE-FN-MAN Captain 39 Rep 890 Posts Drives: E92 M3 x2 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: the wood iTrader: (0)	Is it just me or does the gt-r come off as boring? I've driven two, a modded 2010 and the new 2012 and the car never felt "urgent" or alive I guess you could say. Now granted it was not at a track but both times it was balls out 1st through 3rd and the car never made me sense like I was going fast. Obviously I was but like I said, maybe it's just me but I like the sense of speed and feeling you get from other cars that portray that "feeling" of speed more. Still mad respect for the engineering in it though
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THE-FN-MAN Captain 39 Rep 890 Posts Drives: E92 M3 x2 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: the wood iTrader: (0)	600ish at the tires or motor? Obviously almost anything with that at the tires is gonna be brutally fast. I'm simply trying to say that if you have an M3 and a gtr making the same power that the M3 will be more dramatic because the gtr has the ability to put the power to the ground much better and hence be less of a handful. Just my opinion from my experiences
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Optherion Lieutenant 46 Rep 516 Posts Drives: Prancing Horse Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SoCal & Vegas iTrader: (0)	So youre getting rid of your m3? I love when magazines call the GT-R soul less. The car has scared me to death many times. Motortrend editors cant get enough of it. They just bought a 2013 for a long term road test. Their 2nd GT-R in ownership. __________________ Current Stable: 6 Drivers + 5 Projects Last edited by Optherion; 03-26-2012 at 09:48 AM..
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