HID Angel Eye Owners/ Yellowing of Angel Eyes

[Ben335]

My car has a little over 14K on it now. The yellowing has been there for a while now, probably over a year ago. It was getting worse due to the heat. I feel. One headlight actually got hazy/cloudy but on the inside.

[mazda3ndp]

add me to the list.... just checked and my inner is yellow and outside clear. I have camaross 6k hid kit.

[Ben335]

Originally Posted by mazda3ndp

add me to the list.... just checked and my inner is yellow and outside clear. I have camaross 6k hid kit.

Thanks for confirming. I switched to LUXs. I hope the temperature is much lower than the HIDs as everything is outside the housing now.

[808MGuy]

Yellowing of the halos would probably be caused by extreme heat or UV exposure. I'm guessing UV issue is probably addressed in the design of the halo since they are exposed to natural sunlight on a regular basis. They probably use UV stabilized plastic or something similar. The extreme heat issue could be caused by the heat created bt the HID lamp. I've seen this happen in commercial light fixtures. You don't typically see HID lamp sources used in small fixtures with plastic lenses because the heat will yellow the lens. To address the heat, they either use larger housings or glass lenses.

[mastek]

It's the heat and UV vs. the 'plastic' that the rings are made out of.

I will check mine tomorrow -- but I'm pretty sure I will have the yellowing.
I've had my kit since Dec 2009

[kmarei]

i guess we can move up a step in our light temp for the bulbs
so when your plastic rods yellow you go from 6K to 8K?

[montreal red]

Originally Posted by mazda3ndp

add me to the list.... just checked and my inner is yellow and outside clear. I have camaross 6k hid kit.

do you mind taking a picture of this yellowing? just want to see how bad the yellowing really gets.

[Ben335]

Originally Posted by kmarei

i guess we can move up a step in our light temp for the bulbs
so when your plastic rods yellow you go from 6K to 8K?

I actually had the 8K and they still yellowed horribly.

[808MGuy]

Originally Posted by Ben335

Thanks for confirming. I switched to LUXs. I hope the temperature is much lower than the HIDs as everything is outside the housing now.

LEDs would not emit the same kind of heat. Most of the heat for LED assemblies are dissipated into the heatsink not from the lamp itself. With HID, the heat is coming right off the lamp surface which could be causing the yellowing.

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by 808MGuy

LEDs would not emit the same kind of heat. Most of the heat for LED assemblies are dissipated into the heatsink not from the lamp itself. With HID, the heat is coming right off the lamp surface which could be causing the yellowing.

We brought this up some time ago. Here are surface temp readings of LED, HID and stock LightSources used for Angel Eyes:



Pictured are AngeliBright (left), 35W HID (center) and Halogen (right), things obviously change when installed in a sealed headlamp.

LEDs will always run the coolest out of the three, with HID temps running the highest.

[mastek]

So I checked my Angel Eyes and the Inner Rings IS yellowing
I have the Camaroos HID 6k Kit for 10 months now
The HID brightness is AWESOME!!
But the yellowing of the plastic Angel Eye ring is fugly and makes the headlight assembly look like it's 1978

Is it possible to take the LCI 2011 LED Angel Eye entire Headlight Assembly and retrofit it into my 2008 e90m3?

[Boost3dm3]

ive disabled my hid angel eyes for the time being. Trying to work out something with those umnitza orion leds. Just need to get a broken headlight to start experimenting.

[elm3]

Originally Posted by Boost3dm3

ive disabled my hid angel eyes for the time being. Trying to work out something with those umnitza orion leds. Just need to get a broken headlight to start experimenting.

Just to warn you, the Umnitza people are very hard to deal with. My buddy bought a set of head lights from them and it was nothing but trouble. Especially their customer service, which they got none.

[Ben335]

Originally Posted by mastek

Is it possible to take the LCI 2011 LED Angel Eye entire Headlight Assembly and retrofit it into my 2008 e90m3?

No, Unfortunately. I already looked into it. The shape of the headlight assembly is different. It would require a new bumper, hood, and fender.

[Shieldze1025]

So it seems like everyone so far has had Camaross. Has anyone had this problem with Alpines???? Ordered mine from Alex a few weeks ago, still waiting on them though...

[mastek]

Originally Posted by Shieldze1025

So it seems like everyone so far has had Camaross. Has anyone had this problem with Alpines???? Ordered mine from Alex a few weeks ago, still waiting on them though...

Its not going to matter what brand or who's HID kit you have.
The 'actual' temperature is causing the yellowing in the plastic ring (not the 'Kelvin' temp = light color temp).

The problem is the plastic used cannot withstand the added 100-150F temp and I think the yellowing would occur w OEM bulbs in place ..... the HID's are only accelerating an inherent eventuality.
It would be nice for someone with 40k miles + on their M3 that drives with their OE Angel Eyes always turned on, could chime in.

[montreal red]

Originally Posted by Shieldze1025

So it seems like everyone so far has had Camaross. Has anyone had this problem with Alpines???? Ordered mine from Alex a few weeks ago, still waiting on them though...

Originally Posted by mastek

Its not going to matter what brand or who's HID kit you have.
The 'actual' temperature is causing the yellowing in the plastic ring (not the 'Kelvin' temp = light color temp).

The problem is the plastic used cannot withstand the added 100-150F temp and I think the yellowing would occur w OEM bulbs in place ..... the HID's are only accelerating an inherent eventuality.
It would be nice for someone with 40k miles + on their M3 that drives with their OE Angel Eyes always turned on, could chime in.

+1
i agree that it wont matter who's kit you use. HIDs always run very hot no matter who you buy them from.

so far i still dont have yellowing but i am new to HID angels and only have bout 4 months of experience with them. i will report back if i start to see any yellowing.

[Boost3dm3]

i've had mine on since june and dont daily drive the car and i can definitely tell the inner rings are definitely getting darker than the outer rings.

[GABM]

Hello, I go 1 year with Camaros HID 6000K and my hoops also are yellowish.
Put me in the list.
I will send photos.

[richardbb85]

Originally Posted by Shieldze1025

So it seems like everyone so far has had Camaross. Has anyone had this problem with Alpines???? Ordered mine from Alex a few weeks ago, still waiting on them though...

my passenger side went bad few days ago, it lasted only about 2 months....

[sade]

i Think angel I bright HID ANGEL eye is the best

[Shieldze1025]

I agree that most likely its the temperature that is causing the problem, but I'm just saying that everyone so far has had Camaross. Just kind of odd that no Alpine owners have chimned in...

On another note, I have the OEM AE's and just hit 63k miles. I have the daytime running lights so the AE's are on full time and there is no yellowing whatsoever.