Red Paint Most Expensive?!

rzm3 · 10-08-2008, 11:54 PM

Just got my 1x1 weave CF trunk painted today, and the body shop told me that red paint is the most expensive of all paint. Why is that?

Also, they had to through 5-6 iterations of test strips to get the color match. Why is it so hard? I thought that all colors are computerized based on the color code?

Please edify me. Thanks folks!

McLuVan · 10-08-2008, 11:58 PM

maybe because not a lot of people have it?

JEllis · 10-09-2008, 12:02 AM

Yep I would say that its not as available due to MR's low demand..... However, I love the color...

Jason

rzm3 · 10-09-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JEllis

Yep I would say that its not as available due to MR's low demand..... However, I love the color...

Jason

it's not just MR. serveral people have told me that red is the most expensive paint of all. or perhaps they are just trying to rip me off...

watrob · 10-09-2008, 01:27 AM

MR is metelic, that may have something to do with it as well.

Hope they matched it ok, specially on a CF product. It always seem to dry one shade off.

SlammedR8 · 10-09-2008, 08:35 AM

I used to work at a body shop and I owned a red honda at the time (which I had painted there while I worked there). And yes, red is more expensive then most colors for some reason!

monsta · 10-09-2008, 08:53 AM

forget the cost lets see that red beauty w/ the trunk installed!!

uthatch · 10-09-2008, 09:00 AM

The reason red is more expensive is because the pigments used to make red are the most expensive. Paint is basically pigments suspended in liquid and those red pigments cost the most to manufacture.

It's nothing to do with metallic or availability, it's simple the way the world works. Yellows are also very expensive.

You are SO lucky the body shop was smart enough to take the time to do those sprayouts. Most body shops simply make the color and spray the part without paying any attention to the match. But there are variations on many colors and the way paint is actually sprayed can affect what the color looks like. Painters MUST do a test panel (or sprayout) before they paint the part to ensure the paint will match properly.

valeram · 10-09-2008, 10:40 AM

They are just ripping you off.

nusevad · 10-09-2008, 11:11 AM

so I'm guessing white and black would be the cheapest colors

uthatch · 10-09-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FifthStreetz

so I'm guessing white and black would be the cheapest colors

That is correct.

uthatch · 10-09-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by valeram

They are just ripping you off.

Not so, red's cost more.

Ken37.73 · 10-09-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rldzhao

Just got my 1x1 weave CF trunk painted today, and the body shop told me that red paint is the most expensive of all paint. Why is that?

Please edify me. Thanks folks!

Big windows in the body shop maybe .........

stevespools · 10-09-2008, 02:19 PM

ask any artist - red is the most expensive color, be it oil or acrylic paint, ceramic glazes, etc.

rzm3 · 10-09-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by uthatch

You are SO lucky the body shop was smart enough to take the time to do those sprayouts. Most body shops simply make the color and spray the part without paying any attention to the match. But there are variations on many colors and the way paint is actually sprayed can affect what the color looks like. Painters MUST do a test panel (or sprayout) before they paint the part to ensure the paint will match properly.

Thanks for the info.

Yes I am lucky but it costed me a fortune too. $600 for taking off the OE trunk, painting, and fitting! I did the installation myself.

chili cheese · 10-09-2008, 02:54 PM

While expensive to produce, it's my understanding that Red paint is the most difficult to match, computers or not. Hope it turned out well!

Krueger///M3 · 10-09-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rldzhao

Thanks for the info.

Yes I am lucky but it costed me a fortune too. $600 for taking off the OE trunk, painting, and fitting! I did the installation myself.

Are you getting it repainted? I thought IND did it for you.

uthatch · 10-09-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chili cheese

While expensive to produce, it's my understanding that Red paint is the most difficult to match, computers or not. Hope it turned out well!

Actually silvers are generally the hardest to make look right on the car. There are tons of variables in painting and silver doesn't let you hide a damn thing.

bmstyle71 · 10-09-2008, 06:24 PM

While this has nothing to do with the actual paint costing more. Some places, insurance companies will charge you more if you have a red car

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kronzprinz · 10-10-2008, 04:43 PM

it's the color (any red) that gets into more accidents...

kronzprinz · 10-10-2008, 04:43 PM

statistically speaking...

rzm3 · 10-10-2008, 05:18 PM

well i always thought that was a myth. do you have any supporting documents?

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uthatch Private First Class 5 Rep 126 Posts Drives: AW/FR E92 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	The reason red is more expensive is because the pigments used to make red are the most expensive. Paint is basically pigments suspended in liquid and those red pigments cost the most to manufacture. It's nothing to do with metallic or availability, it's simple the way the world works. Yellows are also very expensive. You are SO lucky the body shop was smart enough to take the time to do those sprayouts. Most body shops simply make the color and spray the part without paying any attention to the match. But there are variations on many colors and the way paint is actually sprayed can affect what the color looks like. Painters MUST do a test panel (or sprayout) before they paint the part to ensure the paint will match properly.
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valeram Major 37 Rep 1,413 Posts Drives: 992 TTS, 991.2 GT3 T, F80 M3 C Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dublin, OH iTrader: (0)	They are just ripping you off.
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chili cheese Major 101 Rep 1,086 Posts Drives: '16 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern CA iTrader: (6)	While expensive to produce, it's my understanding that Red paint is the most difficult to match, computers or not. Hope it turned out well!
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bmstyle71 Captain 115 Rep 635 Posts Drives: jet black e92 m3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: tampa florida iTrader: (0)	While this has nothing to do with the actual paint costing more. Some places, insurance companies will charge you more if you have a red car .
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rzm3 Moderator 673 Rep 4,737 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (18)	well i always thought that was a myth. do you have any supporting documents?
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