M3 with DINAN chip stage1 question.

AriuSen · 10-20-2014, 12:10 AM

Hello,
There is a m3 2012 for sale. I really liked the car, but what concerns me a lot is that it has a dinan stage 1 chip. Owner said that car can go back to stock settings, but my question is, if I leave the car with the chip, can I get extended warranty? Also, if I go back to stock, will BMW ever know that the car was tunned?

My question is because I am worry that once I get the car, if the engine has a problem and I take the car to the dealer, they might void my warranty stating that the engine has been modified. Therefore they wont fix it under warranty.

I would like the owner to go back to stock, but I am also worried that this chip might have damaged the engine in the long-term.
Thanks!

m3ray · 10-20-2014, 12:34 AM

Dinan is so conservative. I doubt the Dinan "chip" stage 1 has long term damaged the engine. Just flash back to stock and you should be good to go for warranty, or just leave it

Warranty is only going to know if you tell them about it.

Ezio · 10-20-2014, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by m3ray

Dinan is so conservative. I doubt the Dinan "chip" stage 1 has long term damaged the engine. Just flash back to stock and you should be good to go for warranty, or just leave it

Warranty is only going to know if you tell them about it.

a tune causing engine problems has never been the problem. Its when your engine blows for another reason. and BMW says you were tuned, we wont fix it.

m3ray · 10-20-2014, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ezio

a tune causing engine problems has never been the problem. Its when your engine blows for another reason. and BMW says you were tuned, we wont fix it.

Isn't Dinan approved/affiliated with BMW, or wouldn't Dinan warranty pick it up in that case?

AriuSen · 10-20-2014, 12:54 AM

that was my concern. I think i will stay away from this car then. Also about telling them, I think they all have in the system that this car has been tuned. There is no way to hide i think.
Ezio, you said "we" you work for bmw?

AriuSen · 10-20-2014, 12:57 AM

wait, but isnt dinan approved by BMW? since it was installed at BMW, wont they cover it?

Ezio · 10-20-2014, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by m3ray

Isn't Dinan approved/affiliated with BMW, or wouldn't Dinan warranty pick it up in that case?

i dont feel like explaining it. but no BMW does not recognize dinan parts or tunes as some people would think. go to Dinan website read what the warranty is.

m3ray · 10-20-2014, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ezio

i dont feel like explaining it. but no BMW does not recognize dinan parts or tunes as some people would think. go to Dinan website read what the warranty is.

You don't feel like explaining what? You made a statement and now you don't wanna back it up.

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Originally Posted by m3KsAriuS

wait, but isnt dinan approved by BMW? since it was installed at BMW, wont they cover it?

OP its very simple. Dinan has a warranty that takes over and they will honor any engine repair that are due to their products. That is if it ever comes to this, which most likely it won't. If the car is something you really want and it ticks all the boxes you need it to, don't let something like this prevent you from buying it.

Ezio · 10-20-2014, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by m3ray

You don't feel like explaining what? You made a statement and now you don't wanna back it up.

OP its very simple. Dinan has a warranty that takes over and they will honor any engine repair that are due to their products. That is if it ever comes to this, which most likely it won't. If the car is something you really want and it ticks all the boxes you need it to, don't let something like this prevent you from buying it.

personally. I would rather just go to any BMW dealership, and have them fix what ever i need. IMO dinan warranty is a hassle. a big hassle for just a tune is not worth it IMO. some people also like to take less chances.

mjposner · 10-20-2014, 07:22 AM

My dealer is an authorized Dinan shop and installs dinan tunes. I would find out who did the work. I have never heard a dinan tunes car turned down for warranty work.

socalm3lover · 10-20-2014, 09:00 AM

OP, it is a non-issue. If you like the car, buy it. Do not listen to shadowey, pretending to be mysterious keyboard heroes.

John

AriuSen · 10-20-2014, 09:55 AM

Ok thanks all!...I will call some dealers and ask about it and decide by tomorrow.

modkrazy · 10-20-2014, 10:34 AM

Some fun facts:

1.) There are no "chips" for the S65, the Dinan tune (and others) are an ECU software flash.

2.) Dinan tunes are the most conservative of all the tuning options available. All of the tunes available seem to be reliable, so you shouldn't be concerned about the tune causing issues.

3.) You can't "hide" this from BMW, as Dinan tunes are flashed at the dealership.

4.) Dinan parts aren't technically BMW parts, but Dinan will match those parts with their own warranty while your car is still under factory warranty, or for 2 years after the date of purchase.

5.) Depending on your dealership, your Dinan parts may or may not raise eyebrows/issues. For example, a BMW dealership that is also a Dinan dealer is very unlikely to turn down a warranty issue due to a Dinan part. Other dealerships, like the super cunts at Momentum BMW West, will point to your Dinan strut braces and use that as basis to refuse warranty service on brakes. Case in point, my dealership is not a Dinan dealer, but I've never had an issue raised over the Dinan parts on my car.

bocobimmer · 10-20-2014, 10:46 AM

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rdoctor · 10-20-2014, 04:19 PM

I've never heard of Dinan software affecting the BMW warranty (regular or CPO). I've got 5 Dinan components (see sig) and it's never been an issue for me.

mjposner · 10-20-2014, 05:45 PM

It would have to have a direct connection to the failure to be used to deny a claim.

///M Ryder · 10-20-2014, 09:26 PM

This is a non issue......buy the car and enjoy it. Don't over think this.......Phil

TVMA Doc · 10-21-2014, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezio

i dont feel like explaining it. but no BMW does not recognize dinan parts or tunes as some people would think. go to Dinan website read what the warranty is.

I had a Dinan stage II suspension installed on my wife's old 325i not too long before deciding to trade it in for the M3. BMW actually was trying to give me less in trade in for a nearly brand new Dinan suspension than a totally worn out original OEM suspension.

TVMA Doc · 10-21-2014, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mjposner

It would have to have a direct connection to the failure to be used to deny a claim.

I think that this all depends upon where you live. CA has laws like this, but not all US states have them. I'm pretty certain that this doesn't pertain to all countries either.

Ezio · 10-21-2014, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rdoctor

I've never heard of Dinan software affecting the BMW warranty (regular or CPO). I've got 5 Dinan components (see sig) and it's never been an issue for me.

never been a issue for you ? so when you blew your engine did BMW check for a tune? oh wait...... you never had any major problems did you....

no wonder why this hasn't been a issue for you.

Ezio · 10-21-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mjposner

It would have to have a direct connection to the failure to be used to deny a claim.

this is true. but you will have to go to court to prove this. and when you go to court "everyone loses."

S4S5RS5M3 · 10-21-2014, 09:20 PM

I would buy the car with the software upgrade if the car is what you want. Dinan warranty is concurrent with the BMW warranty. Chances of an issue are likely low. I bought my car used from a BMW dealership that sells/installs Dinan products in NJ and have it maintained by the BMW/Dinan dealership here in RI. You never know what the dealer might do if there was a problem, but I think the risk is lower going with the Dinan product if you are planning on doing any significant mods.

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AriuSen Lieutenant Colonel 777 Rep 1,923 Posts Drives: Z4M Coupe Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (9)	M3 with DINAN chip stage1 question. Hello, There is a m3 2012 for sale. I really liked the car, but what concerns me a lot is that it has a dinan stage 1 chip. Owner said that car can go back to stock settings, but my question is, if I leave the car with the chip, can I get extended warranty? Also, if I go back to stock, will BMW ever know that the car was tunned? My question is because I am worry that once I get the car, if the engine has a problem and I take the car to the dealer, they might void my warranty stating that the engine has been modified. Therefore they wont fix it under warranty. I would like the owner to go back to stock, but I am also worried that this chip might have damaged the engine in the long-term. Thanks!
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m3ray Banned 101 Rep 701 Posts Drives: '09 e92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: New York City iTrader: (0)	Dinan is so conservative. I doubt the Dinan "chip" stage 1 has long term damaged the engine. Just flash back to stock and you should be good to go for warranty, or just leave it Warranty is only going to know if you tell them about it.
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AriuSen Lieutenant Colonel 777 Rep 1,923 Posts Drives: Z4M Coupe Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (9)	that was my concern. I think i will stay away from this car then. Also about telling them, I think they all have in the system that this car has been tuned. There is no way to hide i think. Ezio, you said "we" you work for bmw?
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AriuSen Lieutenant Colonel 777 Rep 1,923 Posts Drives: Z4M Coupe Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (9)	wait, but isnt dinan approved by BMW? since it was installed at BMW, wont they cover it?
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mjposner Brigadier General 898 Rep 3,071 Posts Drives: 2020 Z4 40i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Southwest Florida iTrader: (3)	My dealer is an authorized Dinan shop and installs dinan tunes. I would find out who did the work. I have never heard a dinan tunes car turned down for warranty work. __________________ Previous BMW: 16 M4, 13 M6; 14 M235i, 12 BMW M3; 11 BMW M3; 08 BMW M3; 08 BMW Z4M; 04 X3; 02 M3 Convertible; 02 M3; 00 M Roadster; 94 325 convertible; 92 325i Convertible; and 85 635csi My Car Photo Blog: http://carfisheye.blogspot.com/
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socalm3lover Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 226 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Carolina iTrader: (0)	OP, it is a non-issue. If you like the car, buy it. Do not listen to shadowey, pretending to be mysterious keyboard heroes. John
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AriuSen Lieutenant Colonel 777 Rep 1,923 Posts Drives: Z4M Coupe Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (9)	Ok thanks all!...I will call some dealers and ask about it and decide by tomorrow.
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modkrazy Lieutenant Colonel 171 Rep 1,536 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: May 2014 Location: tx iTrader: (1)	Some fun facts: 1.) There are no "chips" for the S65, the Dinan tune (and others) are an ECU software flash. 2.) Dinan tunes are the most conservative of all the tuning options available. All of the tunes available seem to be reliable, so you shouldn't be concerned about the tune causing issues. 3.) You can't "hide" this from BMW, as Dinan tunes are flashed at the dealership. 4.) Dinan parts aren't technically BMW parts, but Dinan will match those parts with their own warranty while your car is still under factory warranty, or for 2 years after the date of purchase. 5.) Depending on your dealership, your Dinan parts may or may not raise eyebrows/issues. For example, a BMW dealership that is also a Dinan dealer is very unlikely to turn down a warranty issue due to a Dinan part. Other dealerships, like the super cunts at Momentum BMW West, will point to your Dinan strut braces and use that as basis to refuse warranty service on brakes. Case in point, my dealership is not a Dinan dealer, but I've never had an issue raised over the Dinan parts on my car.
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mjposner Brigadier General 898 Rep 3,071 Posts Drives: 2020 Z4 40i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Southwest Florida iTrader: (3)	It would have to have a direct connection to the failure to be used to deny a claim. __________________ Previous BMW: 16 M4, 13 M6; 14 M235i, 12 BMW M3; 11 BMW M3; 08 BMW M3; 08 BMW Z4M; 04 X3; 02 M3 Convertible; 02 M3; 00 M Roadster; 94 325 convertible; 92 325i Convertible; and 85 635csi My Car Photo Blog: http://carfisheye.blogspot.com/
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S4S5RS5M3 Registered 2 Rep 2 Posts Drives: BMW 2012 Dinan M3 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Exeter, Rhode Island iTrader: (0)	I would buy the car with the software upgrade if the car is what you want. Dinan warranty is concurrent with the BMW warranty. Chances of an issue are likely low. I bought my car used from a BMW dealership that sells/installs Dinan products in NJ and have it maintained by the BMW/Dinan dealership here in RI. You never know what the dealer might do if there was a problem, but I think the risk is lower going with the Dinan product if you are planning on doing any significant mods.
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