NA V8 vs I6 twin/tri turbos ??

mofbb · 03-09-2012, 08:46 PM

We can almost sure there will be turbochargers in the next generation M3. But between this two engine, which one do you guys prefer? Personally I love the current NA V8, so I am getting a last year model e92 this year and I wont regret it ! I will place my order in this summer, will become one of the proud ///M owners just like you guys soon

schnell325 · 03-09-2012, 08:48 PM

You are asking a biased crowd!!!!

I'll keep my s/c'd M3 thank you very much. Even if she didn't have a snail, I'd keep her.

tibra1 · 03-09-2012, 08:50 PM

How can there be a meaningful discussion on this, if the next generation engine hasnt even been released?

kaiv · 03-09-2012, 08:55 PM

These threads are so annoying.

Now you're asking if we prefer the NA V8 or an engine that doesn't even exist yet

The only thing we can say for sure is that the new engine won't sound as good as the S65. Other than that, it'll just be more powerful and more efficient.

tibra1 · 03-09-2012, 08:57 PM

Efficient for sure..this is BMW's primary goal

NFAM3 · 03-09-2012, 09:27 PM

I love turbo cars. I have a e92 but I can't wait to see the new one. And imagine the potential.

kmarei · 03-09-2012, 09:39 PM

I much prefer the turbo charged one
It's got 3 turbos
And as we all know 3>0!
Plus it goes whoosh when you accelerate

Straight Dave · 03-09-2012, 10:06 PM

Whoosh FTW

GregW / Oregon · 03-09-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Straight Dave

Whoosh FTW

As long as you throw in some rude pop off valve sounds and flames from the pipes!

nomoreZ06 · 03-09-2012, 10:50 PM

I wonder if this will turn into a GT2 vs. GT3 type discussion when the new M3 comes out ( verse outgoing one ).

schnell325 · 03-09-2012, 10:53 PM

The whistle go WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

kscarrol · 03-09-2012, 11:28 PM

^

A YouTube classic!!

Terraforce1 · 03-10-2012, 05:15 AM

It seems most manufacturers are dropping NA V8 models in favour of turbo'd engines. Just the way it goes I guess. Some stupid thing called fuel economy, I dunno

MKE_M3 · 03-10-2012, 08:36 AM

Turbos are a two edged sword...

Good Side
* More fuel efficient
* Easy to get BIG power
Bad Side
* More heat
* Too hard to not modify due to low cost/power ratio of modifications. Once modified you either have to lie to keep your warrenty (not my bag) or have potentially high $$ warrenty claims fairly denied.

If BMW can keep the heat under control (a hard 1 hour on the track without temp problems) and maybe a Dinan tune with matched warrenty, the new M3 could be a winner, especially if it wieghs less than the current, like the F30 vs. E90 328/335.

gblansten · 03-10-2012, 08:58 AM

Based on my experience with the engine that is not available I really like it. I have had several imaginary track days with it and it is very responsive.

hks786 · 03-10-2012, 09:12 AM

lmao^

767IJP · 03-10-2012, 09:44 AM

Gblansten.

That was hilarious. Perfect answer.

But it begs the question. Did you use stock or racing pads at the track?

Gkap · 03-10-2012, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schnell325

The whistle go WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

ssabripo · 03-10-2012, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblansten

Based on my experience with the engine that is not available I really like it. I have had several imaginary track days with it and it is very responsive.

This Nga here

gblansten · 03-10-2012, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 767IJP

Gblansten.

That was hilarious. Perfect answer.

But it begs the question. Did you use stock or racing pads at the track?

I can lucid dream so tonight I can do laps with both and report back on the differences.

bigjae1976 · 03-10-2012, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblansten

Based on my experience with the engine that is not available I really like it. I have had several imaginary track days with it and it is very responsive.

That post made my time here worth it!

Back to the subject. I think the engine discussion about the engine is a moot point. It WILL be better than the S65.

The real question is weight. I think the evolution of the M3 from a homo (abbreviated because I can't spell the entire word) special to a dual purpose family car is one that I can live with. But if the weight keeps climbing then the M3 will suffer the same fate as the M5 in becoming a luxo-barge.

IMO, 3700lbs is right on the brink of what you can call nimble with 2 wheel drive. I think it shows its weight with the brake fade from light track use among other things.

tibra1 · 03-11-2012, 04:49 AM

I am hanging on to my N/A V-8 like my balls...Turbo cars are all the rage and for good reason.. it was the it technology in the 70s and now sure to be part of future production cars for a long time to come..N/A gas guzzlers are going the way of the dodo

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mofbb Lieutenant 37 Rep 517 Posts Drives: '13 E92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: British Columbia iTrader: (0)	NA V8 vs I6 twin/tri turbos ?? We can almost sure there will be turbochargers in the next generation M3. But between this two engine, which one do you guys prefer? Personally I love the current NA V8, so I am getting a last year model e92 this year and I wont regret it ! I will place my order in this summer, will become one of the proud ///M owners just like you guys soon __________________ 335i Cabriolet Jet Black/Coral Red - Retired but will never be forgotten M3 Coupé DCT Competition Package Mineral White/Fox Red E9X Picture Game: 2 points (Slow sign, Leaves)
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schnell325 Bored at work.... 890 Rep 5,391 Posts Drives: 2016 F82 M4 GTS//2022 M235iGC Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Comox Valley iTrader: (8)	You are asking a biased crowd!!!! I'll keep my s/c'd M3 thank you very much. Even if she didn't have a snail, I'd keep her. __________________ Grey Matter:2008 E92 M3:608/425. SG/PS SOLD! Dark Matter:2015 F80 M3:495/505. SOLD! Anti Matter :2016 F82 M4 GTS What next?!? A 2022 M235i GC- I must be getting old
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tibra1 Banned 127 Rep 6,773 Posts Drives: 2011 ZCP M3 - 2007 335i crashd Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (4)	How can there be a meaningful discussion on this, if the next generation engine hasnt even been released?
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kaiv IG: limited.slip 331 Rep 1,918 Posts Drives: E46 M3 in a 325i Touring body! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (31)	These threads are so annoying. Now you're asking if we prefer the NA V8 or an engine that doesn't even exist yet The only thing we can say for sure is that the new engine won't sound as good as the S65. Other than that, it'll just be more powerful and more efficient.
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nomoreZ06 New Member 1 Rep 20 Posts Drives: 08 Black E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	I wonder if this will turn into a GT2 vs. GT3 type discussion when the new M3 comes out ( verse outgoing one ).
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MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel 65 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (0)	Turbos are a two edged sword... Good Side * More fuel efficient * Easy to get BIG power Bad Side * More heat * Too hard to not modify due to low cost/power ratio of modifications. Once modified you either have to lie to keep your warrenty (not my bag) or have potentially high $$ warrenty claims fairly denied. If BMW can keep the heat under control (a hard 1 hour on the track without temp problems) and maybe a Dinan tune with matched warrenty, the new M3 could be a winner, especially if it wieghs less than the current, like the F30 vs. E90 328/335. __________________
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