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      02-05-2013, 10:11 AM   #1
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Courtesy Between M3 Owners. What's up with all the hate?

I get the "hate" we get from others, but between BMW E9x M3 owners?

Back in the day, BMW owners used to flash each other and it was understood. It was rare to see other BMW owners.......

Today, I pull up beside another MW E92M3 in my Black E93M3 and give him a thumb up. He flips me off and takes off.....WTF?

Do we need to be like this to each other?

This is even evident between BMW owners that have older Model Year BMW's. They look at you like, "what? you think you're better than us non-M3 owners?" I get this all the time when filling up.....

Before you think that it's me, this was never a case when driving my other +15 non-M BMW's over the years.....
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      02-05-2013, 10:25 AM   #2
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I haven't seen it from E9x M3 owners. Maybe he was having a bad day?

I've seen this from E46 M3 owners, but very rarely, and not usually the finger, just a kind of "yours is not a real M3" attitude.

Just wait until the F80 comes out. Will we be the same way?
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      02-05-2013, 10:42 AM   #3
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Having recently acquired my M3 (6months ago), I do notice other M3s and give them a good 'once over' to see if I like the look. I hardly notice other BMWs unless it's a sporty model (Z3,4). BMW's goal is to sell the most cars in the world and considering that 25% of the cars on my block are BMWs, they just might be achieving that. BMWs are getting as ubiquitous as Toyotas or GMs so I'm noticing them less.
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      02-05-2013, 10:53 AM   #4
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i've never been flipped off, but have noticed a general cold shoulder. There's no brotherhood with M car ownership in comparison to Evo or STi ownership.

Z4M guys don't wave at me, E46 guys think they're better than me, then when I'm washing my car on front of my house a Space Gray owner peel out on front of me showing off










okay, I'm just kidding about the last 2 parts (space gray peeling and E46), but seriously, no waves, no hellos. A few times I've gotten flashes or waves, but like 5 times in the last 2 years of ownership.
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      02-05-2013, 10:57 AM   #5
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i've never been flipped off, but have noticed a general cold shoulder. There's no brotherhood with M car ownership in comparison to Evo or STi ownership.

Z4M guys don't wave at me, E46 guys think they're better than me, then when I'm washing my car on front of my house a Space Gray owner peel out on front of me showing off




okay, I'm just kidding about the last 2 parts (space gray peeling and E46), but seriously, no waves, no hellos. A few times I've gotten flashes or waves, but like 5 times in the last 2 years of ownership.

e46 guys are better than you. plus you dont own an m5. what a loser. flashes?
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      02-05-2013, 10:58 AM   #6
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e46 guys are better than you. plus you dont own an m5. what a loser. flashes?
depends on if i still have my driving privileges, how do you like my subtag under my username, above my avatar?
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      02-05-2013, 11:10 AM   #7
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Not getting much hate around here either . Mostly thumbs-up from all sorts of folks including other M3s .
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      02-05-2013, 11:18 AM   #8
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depends on if i still have my driving privileges, how do you like my subtag under my username, above my avatar?
nice.
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      02-05-2013, 11:21 AM   #9
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IMO, this M3 generation is less about performance than for showing off how much money was spent for it. Too many nouveau riche have E9x M3 thus this behavior.

Miami is full of these guys.

Yes, I said it.
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      02-05-2013, 11:22 AM   #10
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all i get is thumbs up from other m3 drivers, as for 335 guys i get a lot of bad looks, honda civic guys with mufflers are the worst they always try to race you. VW/audi guys are super nice they always ask me to rev it.
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      02-05-2013, 11:28 AM   #11
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I get regular bmw's passing me hella quick on the freeway and slow to normal speeds once they do. I see a couple e9x m3's in alameda, they either ignore or just look at me...
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or just look at me...
they're saying...wtf, I thought I was the only one with this car fml...lol
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      02-05-2013, 11:32 AM   #13
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I got a thumbs up from Felipe Massa the other day as he was sitting on a traffic light in his Ferrari FF
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      02-05-2013, 11:43 AM   #14
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I see this as not lack of courtesy between M3 owners no matter what model. This is simply a problem with lack of courtesy in general in our culture.
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      02-05-2013, 11:46 AM   #15
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I miss the enthusiast comradery. Not sure where it went off to. When the GTR first came out I gave him a thumbs up and he responded by nearly running me off the road swerving in front of me to get on to the exit ramp. Thankfully I have a ninja like response time.
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      02-05-2013, 11:49 AM   #16
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For some reason I get the most love from Porsche owners and confused looks from ford/gm owners. I think we all know the look, how does a BMW sound that good?
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      02-05-2013, 11:50 AM   #17
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all i get is thumbs up from other m3 drivers, as for 335 guys i get a lot of bad looks, honda civic guys with mufflers are the worst they always try to race you. VW/audi guys are super nice they always ask me to rev it.
Had a GT2 with a stock midpipe...I couldn't imagine how your set up sounds.

Lotta looks here - no waves from the stock M3's always get waves from the modded ones.
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      02-05-2013, 12:05 PM   #18
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Must be all the riff raff

Seriously though, I'm not sure what some of you are expecting (in terms of waves, thumbs up, etc.). I really never look at or attempt to interact with other drivers (unless it is to provide them with my own, uh, negative feedback). To me, it seems too likely any gestures could be misinterpreted, plus I'd rather spend time looking at the road, other traffic, etc., than paying attention to other drivers, regardless of what car they are driving.
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      02-05-2013, 12:12 PM   #19
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I give the thumps up or flash my headlamps whenever i see a M3 in fact E36,E46 OR E9x
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      02-05-2013, 12:13 PM   #20
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      02-05-2013, 12:20 PM   #21
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I get thumbs up most of the time from BMW and different vehicles. OP just laugh it off, some people are just plain miserable.
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I also believe it's a reflection of our society's current state of insanity. I'm better off minding my own bizzness but very willing to return a friendly
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