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That's exactly what happened. However, I think the second paddle pull was actually ignored. The muti-gear downshift is meant to put you in the lowest gear that won't cause overrev. It will even drop you to 2nd at about 7700 RPM - you have to be on your toes.
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10-04-2011, 11:00 AM | #47 | |
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BTW, I don't know if they really do it for engine braking, so much as to keep you in the right gear should you suddenly need to or decide to accelerate. |
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Like some people have said, you need to get used to the little everyday "street" driving techniques to optimize its potential and use it efficiently. Yes it has its quirks and differences with manual, but to master it, you must learn around it so you can have a much more appreciated driving experience.
1. I'm usually in S4 mode myself. Like others have stated, a straight 7 to 2 shift is unnecessary. You have two options in this scenario. If you're lazy/occupied, do not down shift at all and the computer will do it for you as rpms allow. There might be a bit of a jerk depending on which S mode you're in. Second and more recommended option is to multi downshift while slowing down and right before the turn. For example, 7th at 50mph- start braking and immediately double tap for 5th, then maybe single tap for 4th, and just before turn double again for 2nd. Now the important thing is to prepare for the turn in advance, and the combination of double or single taps is at your discretion for the desired gear for the turn. All this will be more and more evident as you experience more driving. 2. Now in D mode, the go pedal is key here in toting the line between aggressiveness and efficiency, regardless of what level you're in. The sensitivity of the throttle input seems to be the difference between the different D modes. Slight pressure of throttle will determine quicker or slower gear changes(if at all) between D1-5. I rarely use D mode but if I do, I almost always use D3 because I feel the first 2 are useless and if I'm in D in the first place, I just want to cruise and not hold lower gears anyway. But if I feel the need to punch it a bit, it reacts quick enough for passing, etc. with a slightly more "heavy" press of the pedal. Again the throttle input/sensitivity is the main factor, and the adjustments could very well give you a close compromise of fast and efficient, but why not just use S mode for that? BTW, any D mode should always go into 7th. Just ease up on the throttle a bit and modulate accordingly. |
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Not really. I haven't owned a manual in 10 years. My 62' MGA was my last manual about 10 years ago. I bought the DCT because it looked like it would behave like a manual when I wanted it to and like an auto when I wanted that. I really don't want automation when in manual mode. I'll live with it, but it was a surprising "feature" that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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The multi-downshift mode only happens if a) you floor it past the detente, and b) click the downshift paddle. DCT will then shift down multiple gears. Cheers |
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I love having to press the paddles multiple times to downshift, makes me more "involved" Seriously people, just cause you don't know how to drive it or are unaware of it's idiosyncrasies due to limited seat time or experience does not mean the car has a problem. You bot modern racing technology and don't know how to drive it? This is not a normal street car, it's a wolf in sheeps clothing, spend some time with it and am sure she won't dissappointed
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In Drive Mode: Kickdown For sudden acceleration maneuvers such as passing, depress the accelerator past the resistance point. This provides maximum acceleration. Sport program and manual operation M/S: Quick downshifting: Even in sequential mode, you can skip over several gears in order to achieve an optimum acceleration. To do so, depress the accelerator past the resistance point. If I need to quickly accelerate, I'd much rather push the throttle down past the resistance point, flip the switch ONCE to downshift automatically to 2nd or 3rd or whatever gear it decides, instead of going one by one down to 2nd or 3rd from 7th. It has come in handy getting out of the way of morons stopped in the middle of the highway, or merging onto the highway from an on-ramp.
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The M-DCT is not one where you are in control as fine as a piece of engineering it is (and it is I can assure you - for I am a Engineer that recognizes such accomplishments). No the onboard computer is in full control as it would be if you put your sophisticated flying machine (in your case the jet) on auto pilot. You of course know very well what I mean. So the DCT fellows here are not able to help you out at all ... sorry no only you yourself can step out from this slight misfortune (if that is what it is - I myself think it is not and if you adjust you might just get to like it) and get yourself one of these fine automobiles with 6MT then you will be in full control ... shifting from 6 to 3 then to 2 to take your normal turn into your homestretch neighbourhood street where some of your friendly neighbours will welcome you back home with a gentle wave So good luck to you whatever you do to take that gentle turn into your final destination namely that home stretch you street where you live PS. BTW I know the driving difference as well for my former m3 was a e46 having this fine SMG Transmission and I did get used to it after handing my first 5MT over to one of my loved ones ... so in time you might just get used to your M-DCT.
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I have both, two of our cars are 6 speed manuals and now one is DCT. So, we have both options. Enjoying them both. The M3 is brand new, so we are just getting used to it, hence my original post... Wish I hadn't posted it now.. I just ended up starting a renewed tranny war
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i just leave mine in full drive logic every time i drive. power button on. when i get to say 40+ mph i manually shift up to 7th and then as i brake shift down or toss it back in auto mode depending on where and how im driving.
the one thing dct can do that 6mt cant is you can with the tap of your left fingers downshift faster than you could ever really accomplish on your own while depressing a clutch pedal and shifting manually. definitely love both trannys but they each have their advantages and downsides as well.
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Besides, if you had read the manual properly, you would have realized you can simply push the throttle down, but don't break the resistance point (which still provides a kick especially with the power button on) and downshift nice and slow, one at a time, until you get to whatever gear you're going to. Boggles my mind how people find the dumbest shit to complain about.
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Boggles my mind that some people can't accept that someone else might have an opinion different than them and express them on an internet bulletin board. I guess some people have a really hard time accepting that the entire world isn't exactly like them. Moving on now. |
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Why would you WANT it to be slower? Doesn't make sense. The fact that you didn't even bother reading the manual makes it very clear. Either you're just a troll trying to find SOMETHING to complain about (which isn't even a valid complaint, you just don't know how to use the equipment), or you're just totally clueless. Moving on is right, you have some learning to do. Go learn how to drive your car.
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