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      11-03-2010, 02:33 PM   #67
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The "kid" was a 17 year old. Enough with the kid bs. By that age, he should have known to respect other people's property.
yeah, I'm 17 and if i so much as hit someone's car in a parking lot slowly, and put a scratch, I'd leave my phone# on the windshield so I could pay for it (then again i love cars so I could feel their pain, or they might not care at all)
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      11-03-2010, 03:03 PM   #68
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We will never have a perfect society, sorry to disappoint. Someone hit my car a few months back and never left a note and yes I was pissed but not blow your head off pissed.
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We will never have a perfect society, sorry to disappoint. Someone hit my car a few months back and never left a note and yes I was pissed but not blow your head off pissed.
i wouldn't be pissed at that, seeing it's an accident and he even was respectful and left you a note
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I feel bad the kid died, he only deserved to be shot in the leg. That would be fair punishment.
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All interesting comments, can see both sides frankly - kid was no angel, but didn't deserve to die for that. However, its almost a two for one deal as we get the hothead off the street too...at least for a little while thanks to the flawed justice system.

While the punishment doled out was extreme in the way it went too far, I think the justice system is the opposite extreme - it doesn't go far enough. And its the thing that's supposed to be protecting us. Fail.

On the topic of this thread - has anyone ever read this article by Jeremy Clarkson (Top Gear)?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle2982766.ece

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On the topic of this thread - has anyone ever read this article by Jeremy Clarkson (Top Gear)?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle2982766.ece

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Oh, Mr. Clarkson...
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      11-04-2010, 11:40 AM   #74
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^^ Metal detectors not standard issue in inner city schools in UK?
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      11-07-2010, 10:03 PM   #75
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      11-08-2010, 11:00 PM   #76
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That's the one thing I bet he won't get. No premeditation or provable intent to kill. Worst he will get it 2nd degree murder, but more likely voluntary manslaughter (3-6 years).

Example of 2nd Degree Murder:

Dan comes home to find his wife in bed with Victor. At a stoplight the next day, Dan sees Victor riding in the passenger seat of a nearby car. Dan pulls out a gun and fires three shots into the car, missing Victor but killing the driver of the car.

Example of Voluntary Manslaughter:

Dan comes home to find his wife in bed with Victor. In the heat of the moment, Dan picks up a golf club from next to the bed and strikes Victor in the head, killing him instantly.
nice examples...if only our justice system was that straight forward.
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^^ Metal detectors not standard issue in inner city schools in UK?
handgun are banned in UK and are very hard to comeby...however, their youth are very adept with knife skills...
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      11-09-2010, 03:47 PM   #78
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it's a frigging GOLD car, what did he expect lol
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      11-09-2010, 04:03 PM   #79
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He shouldn't get the death sentence because it wasn't first degree murder. If the kid didn't throw the egg then he wouldn't have been killed.
That's not how premeditation is defined. Premeditation is merely plotting in advance. Thus, you could be guilty of premeditated murder if you plotted murder for revenge.

An argument could be made for premeditation in this case if a jury believes that the the driver carried the gun around for the purpose of exacting revenge when the opportunity arose. And when that opportunity arose (kid egging car), he carried out that premeditated purpose.

Edit: LOL to those who post things like "I carry [Insert weapon] in my car so that I can [shoot/beat the **** out of] people who damage my car". Posts like this could be admissible evidence of premeditation and hence the death penalty (in death penalty states). GL explaining to a jury of 12 and the family of the victim that your post was made in jest ...

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That's not how premeditation is defined. Premeditation is merely plotting in advance. Thus, you could be guilty of premeditated murder if you plotted murder for revenge.

An argument could be made for premeditation in this case if a jury believes that the the driver carried the gun around for the purpose of exacting revenge when the opportunity arose. And when that opportunity arose (kid egging car), he carried out that premeditated purpose.
This...and would be by a competent DA..i mean its basically a drive by
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