Is My Car Lowered?

frankzlin79 · 05-01-2011, 05:32 PM

I use to have a 2008 M3 Coupe with Eibach pro-kit springs and I just acquired a used 2010 M3 Sedan yesterday, (non-competition package). The M3 Sedan appears to be stock in every aspect. However, I noticed that the ride seemed stiffer than what I remembered OEM suspension to feel like. My sedan kind of rides stiff, like when I was running the Eibach springs in my coupe.

Check out the pictures of all four of my wheel gap in the sedan. It almost looks like there is after-market suspension in my sedan because the gap is so small.

So, I'm wondering if my used 2010 M3 has some sort of after-market springs installed (possibly Eibach)? However, when I compared these pics to my coupe, it seems though that the coupe a bit lower. Despite the pics and the stiff ride, I'm inclined to say that my suspension is still stock.

People who are non-competition package and still on OEM springs, thoughts?

GOLFFRR · 05-01-2011, 05:34 PM

can you look under the car and see what color the springs are?

looks stock to me.

frankzlin79 · 05-01-2011, 05:37 PM

Yeah, the springs are black (which is the same color as Eibachs).

GOLFFRR · 05-01-2011, 05:39 PM

i think my eibachs are red? maybe not, maybe my HnR's were red. either way the car looks good!

GOLFFRR · 05-01-2011, 05:40 PM

just went and looked mine are black your right

Mahmood07 · 05-01-2011, 05:40 PM

Looks stock. It is probably different tire pressure which makes the ride feel stiffer.

frankzlin79 · 05-01-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

i think my eibachs are red? maybe not, maybe my HnR's were red. either way the car looks good!

H&Rs are red. Eibachs are black.

I am beginning to believe I am stock springs because I see a big sticker wrapped around the rear spring...the same type of sticker BMW uses to mark some of its parts.

Yeah, I'll check the pressure to see if I need to decrease it. What's the recommended cold pressure for ContisportContact 3s?

ooowowizstev · 05-01-2011, 07:38 PM

It looks stock to me.

tha_good_life · 05-01-2011, 07:42 PM

stock... or...

m3heaven · 05-01-2011, 09:44 PM

Stock for sure.

Hollywood Hogan · 05-01-2011, 09:59 PM

Could it be the tires? Are conti's more rough than the ps2's?

DCC · 05-01-2011, 10:16 PM

When I test drove the coupe vs the sedan (both 2011 ZCP) in March, I noticed that the coupe seems to be smoother riding and better damped.
When I got done, I took a look at the tires and the coupe was wearing Continetals and the sedan was wearing Pirellis and I attributed the difference to the tires...Now you are making me think that maybe there is more to the ride difference.

Brosef · 05-01-2011, 10:22 PM

Looks stock to me. I'm always amazed by what a difference just a few psi of tire pressure has on ride comfort.

frankzlin79 · 05-01-2011, 10:30 PM

Ok, I think it's stock too. But it's strange that the rear driver side gap...I can't even fit one finger. I remember in my coupe, I was able to fit two fingers on OEM springs and no fingers with Eibachs.

Darn....was hoping I could save money by avoiding to do the Eibach upgrade (again).

positiveions · 05-01-2011, 10:43 PM

congrats on the new ride.
Did you have 18's on the 2008?

frankzlin79 · 05-01-2011, 11:45 PM

No, I had the oem 19s on the 2008.

henryyxyu · 05-02-2011, 12:02 AM

Could be a mileage/age difference? I've compared my '10 E90 to an '08 E92 and my E90 definitely felt a little stiffer and tighter overall. The mileage difference was pretty substantial though (200 miles on the E90 vs 8000 miles on the coupe). But anyway, yeah your springs look stock.

saeedg48 · 05-02-2011, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DCC

When I test drove the coupe vs the sedan (both 2011 ZCP) in March, I noticed that the coupe seems to be smoother riding and better damped.
When I got done, I took a look at the tires and the coupe was wearing Continetals and the sedan was wearing Pirellis and I attributed the difference to the tires...Now you are making me think that maybe there is more to the ride difference.

imo the sedan is stiffer.
....annnd now I'm going to get flamed.

MrHarris · 05-02-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by saeedg48

imo the sedan is stiffer.
....annnd now I'm going to get flamed.

I would have to agree, just by feeling though.

Mahmood07 · 05-02-2011, 12:59 AM

Could also be that the few extra lbs on the sedan compress the springs more? I know that when i have a passenger in my coupe the ride feels stiffer than when I am alone.

PIMP "E" · 05-02-2011, 02:01 AM

yeah i think eibach is red and H&R is blue. but if you can get a closer look the name is printed on the springs.

Maseroche · 05-02-2011, 02:38 AM

Eibach are Black.

05-01-2011, 05:32 PM	#1
frankzlin79 Lieutenant Colonel 265 Rep 1,696 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, Texas iTrader: (5)	Is My Car Lowered? I use to have a 2008 M3 Coupe with Eibach pro-kit springs and I just acquired a used 2010 M3 Sedan yesterday, (non-competition package). The M3 Sedan appears to be stock in every aspect. However, I noticed that the ride seemed stiffer than what I remembered OEM suspension to feel like. My sedan kind of rides stiff, like when I was running the Eibach springs in my coupe. Check out the pictures of all four of my wheel gap in the sedan. It almost looks like there is after-market suspension in my sedan because the gap is so small. So, I'm wondering if my used 2010 M3 has some sort of after-market springs installed (possibly Eibach)? However, when I compared these pics to my coupe, it seems though that the coupe a bit lower. Despite the pics and the stiff ride, I'm inclined to say that my suspension is still stock. People who are non-competition package and still on OEM springs, thoughts?
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05-01-2011, 05:34 PM	#2
GOLFFRR 10794 Rep 27,588 Posts Drives: GOLFFRR cart Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: we sell BMWs to "ALL" US states iTrader: (4)	can you look under the car and see what color the springs are? looks stock to me. __________________ BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR NEXT BMW, EMAIL OUR GUY KOTE FIRST! Kote M Sales:Kotem@bmwofcamarillo.com Cell:805-368-9101 vipfinance@bmwofcamarillo.com for warranties!
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05-01-2011, 05:37 PM	#3
frankzlin79 Lieutenant Colonel 265 Rep 1,696 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, Texas iTrader: (5)	Yeah, the springs are black (which is the same color as Eibachs).
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GOLFFRR 10794 Rep 27,588 Posts Drives: GOLFFRR cart Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: we sell BMWs to "ALL" US states iTrader: (4)	i think my eibachs are red? maybe not, maybe my HnR's were red. either way the car looks good! __________________ BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR NEXT BMW, EMAIL OUR GUY KOTE FIRST! Kote M Sales:Kotem@bmwofcamarillo.com Cell:805-368-9101 vipfinance@bmwofcamarillo.com for warranties!
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GOLFFRR 10794 Rep 27,588 Posts Drives: GOLFFRR cart Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: we sell BMWs to "ALL" US states iTrader: (4)	just went and looked mine are black your right __________________ BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR NEXT BMW, EMAIL OUR GUY KOTE FIRST! Kote M Sales:Kotem@bmwofcamarillo.com Cell:805-368-9101 vipfinance@bmwofcamarillo.com for warranties!
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05-01-2011, 05:40 PM	#6
Mahmood07 Captain 86 Rep 856 Posts Drives: E92 M3 + F85 X5M Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Boston->San Diego->Bahrain iTrader: (0)	Looks stock. It is probably different tire pressure which makes the ride feel stiffer. __________________ ///M3 Mods: \| Eisenmann Race Exhaust \| Primary Cats Delete (TTP) \| ESS Tune \| 19" Advan RS \| Eibach Springs \| MS Air Filter \| BMW Perf. Spoiler \| BMW Perf. Splitters \| Euro LCI Tail lights \| Angel iBright v.3.0 \| 20% Tint \| Matte black Kidney Grills \| CF Side Gills \| Painted Reflectors \| Black M3 emblem
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05-01-2011, 07:38 PM	#8
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Hollywood Hogan Captain 98 Rep 908 Posts Drives: Sold: '13 RS5 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (6)	Could it be the tires? Are conti's more rough than the ps2's?
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05-01-2011, 10:16 PM	#12
DCC Major 312 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	When I test drove the coupe vs the sedan (both 2011 ZCP) in March, I noticed that the coupe seems to be smoother riding and better damped. When I got done, I took a look at the tires and the coupe was wearing Continetals and the sedan was wearing Pirellis and I attributed the difference to the tires...Now you are making me think that maybe there is more to the ride difference. __________________ 2024 M2, 2024 CGT4RS, 2020 M2 CS, 2021 Macan GTS, 2017 Cayenne S, 2002 M Coupe
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Brosef Brigadier General 875 Rep 3,450 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (4)	Looks stock to me. I'm always amazed by what a difference just a few psi of tire pressure has on ride comfort.
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05-01-2011, 10:30 PM	#14
frankzlin79 Lieutenant Colonel 265 Rep 1,696 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, Texas iTrader: (5)	Ok, I think it's stock too. But it's strange that the rear driver side gap...I can't even fit one finger. I remember in my coupe, I was able to fit two fingers on OEM springs and no fingers with Eibachs. Darn....was hoping I could save money by avoiding to do the Eibach upgrade (again).
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05-01-2011, 11:45 PM	#16
frankzlin79 Lieutenant Colonel 265 Rep 1,696 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, Texas iTrader: (5)	No, I had the oem 19s on the 2008.
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05-02-2011, 12:02 AM	#17
henryyxyu Captain 108 Rep 636 Posts Drives: YXZ Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	Could be a mileage/age difference? I've compared my '10 E90 to an '08 E92 and my E90 definitely felt a little stiffer and tighter overall. The mileage difference was pretty substantial though (200 miles on the E90 vs 8000 miles on the coupe). But anyway, yeah your springs look stock.
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Mahmood07 Captain 86 Rep 856 Posts Drives: E92 M3 + F85 X5M Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Boston->San Diego->Bahrain iTrader: (0)	Could also be that the few extra lbs on the sedan compress the springs more? I know that when i have a passenger in my coupe the ride feels stiffer than when I am alone. __________________ ///M3 Mods: \| Eisenmann Race Exhaust \| Primary Cats Delete (TTP) \| ESS Tune \| 19" Advan RS \| Eibach Springs \| MS Air Filter \| BMW Perf. Spoiler \| BMW Perf. Splitters \| Euro LCI Tail lights \| Angel iBright v.3.0 \| 20% Tint \| Matte black Kidney Grills \| CF Side Gills \| Painted Reflectors \| Black M3 emblem
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PIMP "E" Colonel 59 Rep 2,500 Posts Drives: AW 2011 M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CentCal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 M3 [0.00]	yeah i think eibach is red and H&R is blue. but if you can get a closer look the name is printed on the springs. __________________ MONEY IS THE SAIL TO MY BOAT
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Maseroche Major 55 Rep 1,447 Posts Drives: '12 BMW M3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bahrain iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 BMW M3 [0.00]	Eibach are Black. __________________ Khalid '12 BMW E92 M3 '03 BMW E46 M3 '14 Mercedes-Benz S400 '18 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
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