BMW Performance Seats into an E92 M3

Thorney · 01-12-2010, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Performance Seats are 5lbs heaver than OEM.

Er, not sure where you heard that, they are 5kg per seat lighter. We weighed them as part of the instal.

Thorney · 01-12-2010, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

The Retrofit path specifies to code the Performance Seats as "Sport Seats" which is available using DIS or autologic. This is the only way these seats can be coded properly. I'm not aware of how a module or sensor can be "deprogrammed".

US vehicles have different set of standards for OC3 monitoring, whereas the seats won't code properly in our vehicles without the OC3 module or simply dealing with the error messages.

I agree with the cost of proper programming tools, they're not cheap.

Cant say we have any direct experience on US models so happy to defer to your greater experience. Deprogramming is a generic term to describe what we're doing, the coding is there to 'disable' some of the functions so its the easiest way of describing it thats all.

Thorney · 01-12-2010, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maseroche

Do these seats sit lower in the car? My main gripe is that I'm sitting way to high for my liking.

Yes, much lower, about 5cm we measured. The frames have a high and low seat set up so bear that in mind when you fit them.

Thorney · 01-12-2010, 03:39 AM

Sorry mate, been wrapped up in Autosport. Drop me a mail and I;'ll sort it for you.

tom @ eas · 01-12-2010, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorney

Er, not sure where you heard that, they are 5kg per seat lighter. We weighed them as part of the instal.

My mistake, BMW documentation rates them at 3kg lighter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorney

Cant say we have any direct experience on US models so happy to defer to your greater experience. Deprogramming is a generic term to describe what we're doing, the coding is there to 'disable' some of the functions so its the easiest way of describing it thats all.

Ah, different terminology on the other side of the pond. Thanks for posting your results.

DCMETRO22Z · 01-12-2010, 05:53 AM

The mexican racing dynamics guy has them with a custom alcantara upholstery

03SG///M3 · 01-12-2010, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FStop7

The OEM M3 seats are barely worthy of the car, definitely the biggest weakness

Completely agree - biggest weakness. The BMW performance seats should have standard in the E90/92 M3. The seating position should be a lot lower too.

Olagüe · 01-12-2010, 02:01 PM

nice seats!

aus · 01-12-2010, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorney

Er, not sure where you heard that, they are 5kg per seat lighter. We weighed them as part of the instal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorney

Yes, much lower, about 5cm we measured. The frames have a high and low seat set up so bear that in mind when you fit them.

Good info. Thanks.

Technic · 01-12-2010, 02:13 PM

The mystery to me is how BMWAG released a set of Performance seats that require magic tricks to install in BMW's and not having ECU faults.

It seems that the correct, proper and OEM retrofit path in ISTA/P does not exist on either side of the Atlantic still today.

Checkcaptain · 01-12-2010, 04:54 PM

I was the first one who had these seats in an M3 E92 and got them directly from M GmbH. I had all the warning lights for about 3 month before the problem was solved. Now I enjoy the heated seats with airbags, which are actually 3.5kg lighter than stock and seat position is about 5cm lower also than stock. I do highly recomend them!

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

My mistake, BMW documentation rates them at 3kg lighter.

Ah, different terminology on the other side of the pond. Thanks for posting your results.

aus · 01-12-2010, 05:17 PM

Did the dealer fix all the lights/problems? Could you raise the seat if you wanted to?

Your car is just SICK!!!

Checkcaptain · 01-12-2010, 05:27 PM

Yes - the dealer did! I guess the support is much better here than in the US.
To raise the seat, you have to put is out of the car, so more or less it´s a one time adjustment!

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus

Did the dealer fix all the lights/problems? Could you raise the seat if you wanted to?

Your car is just SICK!!!

Splinter4784 · 01-12-2010, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FStop7

The OEM M3 seats are barely worthy of the car, definitely the biggest weakness

no, the biggest weakness is the Brakes

Green///Hell · 01-12-2010, 07:05 PM

Man I want these pretty bad. I want some race shells again but with Heated seats and airbags really sweetens the deal

tom @ eas · 01-12-2010, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panda///Monic

Man I want these pretty bad. I want some race shells again but with Heated seats and airbags really sweetens the deal

Anything's possible - here's a set of Pole Positions we did for Mfest:

Heating can be added as well if desired, but keep in mind these are still race shells.

KANdaddy · 01-12-2010, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Anything's possible - here's a set of Pole Positions we did for Mfest:

Sweet! Not feeling the MFest crest and stripes tho.

M3 Montreal · 01-14-2010, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splinter4784

no, the biggest weakness is the Brakes

+1 on that !

Mind you the brakes are AWESOME if you don't ever track your car but if you do and are aggressive on the braking you will notice fade after 2 laps (depending on the track). That's why I just picked up the Brembo GT kit to be installed after the winter...

crfine88 · 01-14-2010, 09:30 AM

I want theis seats!!!

TonyTone · 01-14-2010, 09:35 AM

and they are comfy

Bob MG · 01-16-2010, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panda///Monic

Yeah the seats are super easy to install in the Euro cars since you guys don't have to deal with the occupancy sensor in the passenger seat
We will get an airbag and seatbelt warning light on dash and in the iDrive

In my car I ran the OCS3 module with my Pole Positions, but the problem is the passengers airbag is turned off completely which I find dangerous

Installed mine today and got just that. They will het codes from Germany to reprogramme the seats to avoid and clear the occ sensor, head restraints and airbag issue.

If we can do this, I'm sure you can do it states side if you have a cooperative BMW dealer. It's just electronics and can be programmed to suit.

michaeldorian · 01-16-2010, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewabf

Installed mine today and got just that. They will het codes from Germany to reprogramme the seats to avoid and clear the occ sensor, head restraints and airbag issue.

If we can do this, I'm sure you can do it states side if you have a cooperative BMW dealer. It's just electronics and can be programmed to suit.

Keep us posted on how it goes. If you have any more details to share that would also rock. Post pics!

01-12-2010, 03:39 AM	#26
Thorney Enlisted Member 13 Rep 37 Posts Drives: E92 GT3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Milton Keynes, UK iTrader: (0)	Sorry mate, been wrapped up in Autosport. Drop me a mail and I;'ll sort it for you.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2010, 05:53 AM	#28
DCMETRO22Z Lieutenant 36 Rep 422 Posts Drives: Feet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Massy 91 iTrader: (0)	The mexican racing dynamics guy has them with a custom alcantara upholstery
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2010, 02:01 PM	#30
Olagüe Brigadier General 106 Rep 4,502 Posts Drives: 333i e92 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New York City iTrader: (0)	nice seats!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2010, 02:13 PM	#32
Technic Lieutenant General 2281 Rep 12,997 Posts Drives: 2021 i3S, 2024 i4 M50 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida iTrader: (18)	The mystery to me is how BMWAG released a set of Performance seats that require magic tricks to install in BMW's and not having ECU faults. It seems that the correct, proper and OEM retrofit path in ISTA/P does not exist on either side of the Atlantic still today.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2010, 05:17 PM	#34
aus Major General 890 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Did the dealer fix all the lights/problems? Could you raise the seat if you wanted to? Your car is just SICK!!! __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2010, 07:05 PM	#37
Green///Hell Colonel 183 Rep 2,873 Posts Drives: 991 GT3, F15 X5, 1199S Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (5)	Man I want these pretty bad. I want some race shells again but with Heated seats and airbags really sweetens the deal
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-14-2010, 09:30 AM	#41
crfine88 Colonel 441 Rep 2,747 Posts Drives: E86M Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cave Creek AZ. iTrader: (19)	I want theis seats!!! __________________ LINK TO 07 IR PHOTO JOURNAL:http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1303735 LINK TO 06 IB MOD JOURNAL:http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403119
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-14-2010, 09:35 AM	#42
TonyTone Major 202 Rep 1,293 Posts Drives: M3 VERT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	and they are comfy __________________ Tony Tone "I drive a blue car with a V8, but sometimes a white car with twin turbos"
	Appreciate 0 Quote