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      07-05-2011, 04:15 PM   #89
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I can not believe she got off too, obviously the jury did not want to believe she killed her kid....
Sadly, it doesn't matter what the jury believes or thinks. All that matters is what they know happened beyond a reasonable doubt. That's all that counts. I bet damn near every one of them thinks she did it; they just don't believe there was enough evidence to pin those crimes on her, given the evidence presented.
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Ok, for one this is a real weird capture of time. But check out that guard. He's totally eye-balling Casey. Prolly thinking now "hmm, now I can get a piece of that".
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This case was over days ago; there just wasn't enough evidence to overcome a "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. Could any one reasonable person have doubt that Casey was guilty? Based on the (lack of) evidence, yes, and apparently 12 did.

And even if there were 12 silvergrays in the jury that convicted, I am almost certain that the judge would have overturned the conviction ...

Edit: Notable quote from Benjamin Franklin:
"it is better [one hundred] guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer." This is why we have such a high standard for conviction.
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      07-05-2011, 04:31 PM   #92
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Yeah I dont think anyone is defending that she's innocent, we are just saying we don't think she is guilty.

Nobody knows the truth, and thats the fact. Only her.
Actually, I am definitely saying I think she's guilty, I just don't know she's guilty.
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I think she was involved as were the parents in some way. I think or believe it was possibly an accident or neglect on all their parts hence the cover up and bull shit flim flam stories. I was seriuosly leaning towards manslaughter with neglience factored in until the last 3 weeks when it was pretty apparent no one was offering anything substantial in this case. It's to bad because a little girl lost her life and her legacy is and always will be only that.
I also think every member of the prosecution team that gets paid by taxpayer dollars should give their entire salary back as this was a lost cause months ago and it took forever to even get it to trial with no hope of winning. I want to see Lawson Lamar serving me a Whopper!!! I find it intriguing that none of the other members of the prosecution team even attended the news conference, trying to distance themselves from this travesty of a trial maybe??
I think people forget, the prosecution are people too, and they get paid to do a job, and sometime the pay check gets in the way of doing what is right. Also you know many time the DA has pressure to bring someone to court, and we hear about it all the time that the DA in their rush to show the public they are doing their jobs prosecutes the first obvious suspect but not the actually guilty one. So it better to let someone go then convict the wrong person.

A good lawyer once told me never ask a witness a question which you do not already know the answer to, and do not ask questions about things which do not help your case. In this case the DA was asking lots of questions which they did not have the answers to and hope the jury would make the leap of faith.
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Ok, for one this is a real weird capture of time. But check out that guard. He's totally eye-balling Casey. Prolly thinking now "hmm, now I can get a piece of that".
Actually it looks like I am going to kill the bitch
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Ok, for one this is a real weird capture of time. But check out that guard. He's totally eye-balling Casey. Prolly thinking now "hmm, now I can get a piece of that".
I heard from someone that if the defendant is found not-guilty and they cover their mouth with their left hand in awe, they're really guilty. There probably isn't an ounce of truth to that but that picture made me think of it.

Either way I think that bitch should do jail time for wasting our time for nearly 3 years.
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I heard from someone that if the defendant is found not-guilty and they cover their mouth with their left hand in awe, they're really guilty. There probably isn't an ounce of truth to that but that picture made me think of it.
That's crazy bizarre. Never heard of that.
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I heard from someone that if the defendant is found not-guilty and they cover their mouth with their left hand in awe, they're really guilty. There probably isn't an ounce of truth to that but that picture made me think of it.

Either way I think that bitch should do jail time for wasting our time for nearly 3 years.
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HAHAHAHAH, Jeff Ashton is reported to be retiring. Wonder if he made funny faces when he told everyone he was quitting...
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Kind of funny that we still have NO IDEA who the father is.
I see that shit every day...they want to know what day they got pregnant..."was it Friday or Saturday, because this is important...if its the one dude, I'm getting an abortion...if it's the other dude, I'm keeping it"
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This case was over days ago; there just wasn't enough evidence to overcome a "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. Could any one reasonable person have doubt that Casey was guilty? Based on the (lack of) evidence, yes, and apparently 12 did.

And even if there were 12 silvergrays in the jury that convicted, I am almost certain that the judge would have overturned the conviction ...

Edit: Notable quote from Benjamin Franklin:
"it is better [one hundred] guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer." This is why we have such a high standard for conviction.
I'm with you....the prosecution needs to get better...they have UNLIMITED resources and still came up with no real evidence...
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Facts? You want facts? A child has been murdered. Mother doesn't care. Mother lies. Mother gets lucky and the jury was persuaded by a successful defense team.

There, I gave you your facts.
You forgot...government puts on a shitty prosecution
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      07-05-2011, 05:56 PM   #104
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Ok, let's put all the legal bullshit aside for a second. Let's do a little bit of logical thinking. Caylee was only a toddler. The majority of the time, she was with her mother and grandparents. It was clear that Casey didn't want the child. She was more interested in partying and having a good time. She didn't report Caylee missing until 31 DAYS later. Sorry, but if I was a parent, I would report my child missing only after a few hours. And I would not be partying and getting tattoos. After the death of a loved one, I would be mourning. Casey clearly did not give a fuck.

I know there is so much more to the case but I'm not going to type all of it. I don't need to. And if Casey really didn't do it, why did she feel the need to lie about EVERYTHING?

Common sense. Some have it and some don't.
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and, i dont know of the case , i just read some things now from some articles and this thread.
it seems that she did it. the lies dont help her story. i dont care about the "true" evidence. i just hope she gets run over by a bus or something cause to me she did it. as for the parents also lying i think that they know their daughter did it and just wanted to cover it or even take the blame (mother lying about internet search)

so to everybody that supports she should walk, i really dont think that you truly believe she is innocent or that she should walk away, its just for the sake of the argument (i like to do it to sometimes) but come on people.. a 25 year old who got pregnant without wanting to, does searches on the nternet about chloroform, her child dies of chloroform poisoning, does not report anything, she is not sad, goes out partying tattooing that life is (now) perfect..
someone actually believes that she didnt do it??? come on.. dont come back to me with is not what you know is what you can prove in court.. you as individuals here, all those that support she didnt do it, do you honestly believe that she didnt do it??
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^ Really? You're actually telling us to judge people despite insufficient evidence? What happened to "Don't judge a book by its cover"? Aren't you just feeding the media hype (one of many things that is wrong with America today)?
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^ Really? You're actually telling us to judge people despite insufficient evidence? What happened to "Don't judge a book by its cover"? Aren't you just feeding the media hype (one of many things that is wrong with America today)?

1. insufficient? for the court maybe. for common sense no.

2. dude thats not the cover, its like you read the entire book and someone tore off the last page, yeah you cant say the ending of the book for sure but you can pretty much estimate what the ending is.

3. i'm not american. i'm not feeding any media hype as i havent seen anything in the media about this.
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Thats why judges must be educated, because "I think she did it, so she did" would really corrupt this country.

They cant show biased opinions in court, and the above opinion is pretty ignorant.

"Better to free 100 guilty people, than convict one innocent one"
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Thats why judges must be educated, because "I think she did it, so she did" would really corrupt this country.

They cant show biased opinions in court, and the above opinion is pretty ignorant.

"Better to free 100 guilty people, than convict one innocent one"
i asked if you believe she is guilty or not. i did not say what the court should do. the prosecution did a lousy job, lack of evidence means she walks out, like it or not thats how it goes.

you should read better before calling someone ignorant. i know the court went by the book and set her free. i asked what you really think..
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Facts? You want facts? A child has been murdered.
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but there is no evidence to support your statement.
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i asked if you believe she is guilty or not. i did not say what the court should do. the prosecution did a lousy job, lack of evidence means she walks out, like it or not thats how it goes.

you should read better before calling someone ignorant. i know the court went by the book and set her free. i asked what you really think..
You are ignorant for saying she needs to be run over a bus because you think she did it after reading one article. It's irrelevant what we think, it's what the prosecutor can prove, or the defense to refute. The fact she "searched for chloroform online", can't be proven because you have to put her in the chair. What type of mother she is doesn't mean guilty either. Our opinion is irrelevant to the case, it is safe to say majority of us think the same thing, but we don't matter.
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