Macht Schnell wheel spacer reference thread

[su_root]

Originally Posted by caliizaktiv

My experience with Macht Schnell. 18mm Fronts, 15mm Rear. 2013 ZCP OEM suspension. Car itself has less than 8,000 miles on it. Torqued to 88 lbf·ft. Needless to say, vibration was not present prior to install. Wire brushed the hubs and mounting surface. No anti-seize applied.

Wheels/Tires:
OEM Style 219m
18x8.5 et29
18x9.5 et23

Blizzak LM 32
235/40/18
255/40/18

Wheels and tires have less than 1,500 miles on them.

Spacers:
18mm Front
15mm Rear

Suspension: OEM ZCP

This. Vibrations start around 40mph and up.

I've tried reinstalling multiple times as well. My next step is getting wheels rebalanced - although steering was solid before installing the spacers.

It's incredibly disappointing.

[shimmy23]

i had issues one time and the solution was properly torquing the lug nuts and reinstalling them in the correct process

[caliizaktiv]

I'm reporting back that I re-cleaned the hub and hub lip with a wire brush and brake cleaner. I mounted the spacer and while the wheel was in the air, I hand tightened the lugs, lowered the car and torqued to exactly 88 on the wrench. Seemed to help alot actually. Wheel doesn't vibrate at all like it used too. Much better now.

Does installation recommend torquing with the wheel off or on the ground?

[msan]

My rec is torque with slight load on tires. Second best is torque with full load. Last is torque in the air.

[SteveOS]

What is your recommendations on spacers? I want it flush, if at all possible, so I don't rub. Thanks.

Year/model BMW:
2011 E92 M3

Wheels/offset:
Front: 19x9.5 VMR 710, ET22
Rear: 19x10 VMR 710, ET25

Tire size:
Front: Hankook V12 255/35-19
Rear: Hankook V12 275/35-19

Suspension:
H&R Springs

[abren]

19x10.5 +22 with a 12mm MS spacer

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by SteveOS

What is your recommendations on spacers? I want it flush, if at all possible, so I don't rub. Thanks.

Year/model BMW:
2011 E92 M3

Wheels/offset:
Front: 19x9.5 VMR 710, ET22
Rear: 19x10 VMR 710, ET25

Tire size:
Front: Hankook V12 255/35-19
Rear: Hankook V12 275/35-19

Suspension:
H&R Springs

Steve, got you all setup and your order shipping out today.

Originally Posted by abren

19x10.5 +22 with a 12mm MS spacer

Looks Awesome! Thats brings you down to a 19x10.5 et 10, that super aggrressive.

[SteveOS]

Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

Steve, got you all setup and your order shipping out today.





Looks Awesome! Thats brings you down to a 19x10.5 et 10, that super aggrressive.

Thanks again Kevin!

[abren]

Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

Looks Awesome! Thats brings you down to a 19x10.5 et 10, that super aggrressive.

Thanks! Was thinking about trying my set of 15mm spacers on the rear and moving the 12s to the front but I think that might be pushing it.

[triggz82]

Any idea if I'd rub running zcp/gts rims on 255/275 pss and prokits with 12/10 setup?

[Larsim]

When I was searching for an answer I couldn't find a definite answer so here is hoping my experience helps someone in the future. I am currently running 255/275 Michelin PSS and I tried putting on 15MM spacers on the rear and 12MM on the front and they BOTH rubbed on the front and on the rear. I then tried 10MM spacers on the rear and 10MM on the front and once again the BOTH rubbed when going over bumps or when turning at which time I just gave up and will probably buy new wheels in the future with the offsets I want.

Here it how it looked with 12MM on the rear and no spacers on the front:





And here is where it was rubbing on the front:

[caliizaktiv]

Year/model BMW:
2013 E92 M3 Comp

Wheels/offset:
Front: BMW Style 219m 18x8.5 et29
Rear: BMW Style 219m 18x9.5 et23

Tire size:
Front: Bridgestone Blizzak 235/40/18
Rear: Bridgestone Blizzak 255/40/18

Spacers:
18mm Front
15mm Rear

Suspension:
OEM EDC

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[geeitup]

Originally Posted by Larsim

When I was searching for an answer I couldn't find a definite answer so here is hoping my experience helps someone in the future. I am currently running 255/275 Michelin PSS and I tried putting on 15MM spacers on the rear and 12MM on the front and they BOTH rubbed on the front and on the rear. I then tried 10MM spacers on the rear and 10MM on the front and once again the BOTH rubbed when going over bumps or when turning at which time I just gave up and will probably buy new wheels in the future with the offsets I want.

What springs are you running?

[geeitup]

E90 M3

Running H&R springs
Front Lowering 1.0"
Rear Lowering 0.6

Just put on APEX EC-7 wheels
19x8.5 245/35 ET20 (new Michelin S4S rubber)
19x10 275/35 ET25

So I figure I'm running -10mm offset from 220 stock wheels in front, and -3mm in the rear. But it sure looks like I still have a lot of room for say, 15mm spacer front and 12mm spacer rear.

But I want NO rubbing and I'll periodically be running adults in the rear seat.

So maybe 12mm front, 10mm rear????

But I'm still under the impression 10mm spacers don't properly allow hubcentric mounting??? Also don't want vibrations since I'll be running 140 at the track


Thanks guys!!!

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by geeitup

E90 M3

Running H&R springs
Front Lowering 1.0"
Rear Lowering 0.6

Just put on APEX EC-7 wheels
19x8.5 245/35 ET20 (new Michelin S4S rubber)
19x10 275/35 ET25

So I figure I'm running -10mm offset from 220 stock wheels in front, and -3mm in the rear. But it sure looks like I still have a lot of room for say, 15mm spacer front and 12mm spacer rear.

But I want NO rubbing and I'll periodically be running adults in the rear seat.

So maybe 12mm front, 10mm rear????

But I'm still under the impression 10mm spacers don't properly allow hubcentric mounting??? Also don't want vibrations since I'll be running 140 at the track


Thanks guys!!!

The new Michelin 4S run a bit wide. It's best to fit the wheels first, then measure from sidewall edge to inside of fender to be 100% sure what size spacers you need so you get the right parts the first time.

[geeitup]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

The new Michelin 4S run a bit wide. It's best to fit the wheels first, then measure from sidewall edge to inside of fender to be 100% sure what size spacers you need so you get the right parts the first time.

Here are some pics
The right front is rubbing already when turning to the right with some suspension compression. Its rubbing the bulge on the rear of the front right wheel (only) liner - I'm not sure what's behind that on the right side. I'd have to guess a spacer will only make that situation worse. Might be a combination of the 1" lowering and alignment, even though the fender lip looks like it could take a spacer.
I could try to deform that bulge in the wheel well liner but I'm sure its there for something behind it. It does seem to move in a bit before it hits whatever its protecting.

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by geeitup

Here are some pics
The right front is rubbing already when turning to the right with some suspension compression. Its rubbing the bulge on the rear of the front right wheel (only) liner - I'm not sure what's behind that on the right side. I'd have to guess a spacer will only make that situation worse. Might be a combination of the 1" lowering and alignment, even though the fender lip looks like it could take a spacer.
I could try to deform that bulge in the wheel well liner but I'm sure its there for something behind it. It does seem to move in a bit before it hits whatever its protecting.

You shouldn't be rubbing with that setup. Unfortunately, spacers wouldn't help in this situation.

Have the alignment double-checked, or possibly look into the KW Sleeve kit, which will allow you to dial in the suspension height just where you want, giving you options for fine-tuning with spacers.

[Teleptep]

year/model of your BMW: 2013 E92 M3 with comp package

Wheels/offset:
Front: 19 comp wheel stock
Rear: 19 comp wheel stock

Tire size:
Front: Michelin PS2 245/35 -19 (might switch to PSS soon)
Rear: Michelin PSS 265/35 -19

Suspension:
stock w/ EDC

What would you guys recommend?

[nydog]

2008 E92 M

Wheels/offset:
Front: Apex ARC-8 19X9.5 ET 22
Rear: Apex ARC-8 19X10 ET 25

Tire size:
Front: Michelin PSS 255/35
Rear: Michelin PSS 275/35

Suspension:
Dinan springs on stock EDC dampers

Looking for recommendation to make rears more flush with no rub.

Thanks

[M3_Slayer]

2011 E92 M3 with comp package

Wheels/offset:
Front: 19 comp wheel stock
Rear: 19 comp wheel stock

Tire size:
Front: Michelin PS2 245/35 -19 (might switch to PSS soon)
Rear: Michelin PSS 265/35 -19

Suspension:
stock w/ EDC

Looking for recommendations. Thanks in advance

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by foOkhalifa

2011 E92 M3 with comp package

Wheels/offset:
Front: 19 comp wheel stock
Rear: 19 comp wheel stock

Tire size:
Front: Michelin PS2 245/35 -19 (might switch to PSS soon)
Rear: Michelin PSS 265/35 -19

Suspension:
stock w/ EDC

Looking for recommendations. Thanks in advance

You should be fine with a 12/15mm combo on your current setup.

[M3_Slayer]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

You should be fine with a 12/15mm combo on your current setup.

Thanks Bud!