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03-28-2008, 07:52 PM | #1959 | |
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the title should be clean (its a new car), and i'm sure Ken will carfax /experian autocheck it numerous times (i personally prefer experian, as it caught something on my car carfax didn't pick up). they also say to carfax/experian autocheck a vehicle a few months after sale (my experian guy said this is done so a few days prior to sale, and incidents don't show up for 30 days or so in their databases). |
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03-28-2008, 07:53 PM | #1960 |
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I am a new member but have been following this thread from the start. I am a retired vehicle dealer and can see both sides of this saga. From the start I have been in Dooma's corner and was happy to hear the dealership agreed to the original terms. The dealership also agreed to cover transportation, that sounds like an apology for this whole mess.
Now the dealership has set a reasonable time limit on closing this transaction and even extended that time for another three days. It is up to Ken to complete this during this time period. If the leasing company Ken has chose is not acceptable to the dealership then Ken needs to find one that is or go through the dealership for the lease. Most times when the car is sold or leased the dealership must send the MSO (Manufacturers Statement of Origin) to the financing or leasing company before payment is made. So dealers work with companies they are sure will get payment to them in a timely manor. I can understand the dealership not wanting to send the car to California and the MSO to a company they have never heard of. Before you flame me, think about it. Would sell a vehicle to a stranger, pay the shipping to take the vehicle more than 1,000 miles away then send off the title somewhere else to someone you had never heard of and then wait for payment. If not completed by the deadline the dealership has every right to close the books on this. |
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03-28-2008, 07:58 PM | #1961 | |
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a little bit of a side note here, but i take BMWNA's silence here troubling. they seem to support the dealership without saying a word, and thats they way it comes across. not even a "no comment" or "we'll be monitoring this case, thats all for now". Are they oblivous to this (which i doubt), so it leads me to believe they know, and are choosing to stand idly by while their reputation is being lost to other luxury auto makers who truly care about the customers that walk through their dealerships. |
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03-28-2008, 08:00 PM | #1962 |
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I'm not understanding- didn't Dooma like 5-10 pages back state that the Michael Maledon attorney took his credit card info and charged the deposit, after Fil wouldn't do it? And that that consummated the deal? I am really not getting this. There's such a huge difference in what both sides are saying happening. Either Dooma sent someone representing the dealer a quick deposit or he didn't. There's really no time excuse or anything. I guess I would need to hear more.
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03-28-2008, 08:01 PM | #1963 | |
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I don't think these are threats. Just that if you pay for it, its still yours. I think it is ironic that everyone was telling Ken it was his car due to the Ebay auction rules and now, even after doubling the timeframe to make payment, the dealership is being vilified for wanting the same rules enforced. Live by the sword. Again, I am not choosing sides. I would love for Ken to get the car because of the principle of it all. Just how it has all gone down has not sat well with many here. Call us simple out here in the heartland, but we don't handle things like this. As hard as you push to bash, the people here band together to support, just not here on this blog, from their wallets where it matters. Not to be argumentative, but these farmers have million dollar combines and lots of buying power and don't frequent sites like this. Not too many buyers from California walking in the door here. You have clearly missed your intended target as I have only see about 5 people post here that are within a days drive. Sorry, just my opinion.
I truly hope this gets straightened out and settled and that both parties are made whole in some manner. At this point the quickest way may be to just pony up the funds. Again, believe this, we are not a vindictive group of people out here. We prefer our lifestyle a bit relaxed and or interstates free of traffic so we can really enjoy our BMW's. Sorry if you misunderstood my post. Jeff Gomon |
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03-28-2008, 08:02 PM | #1965 | |
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The one thing I don't understand is, if true, why didn't Ken not send payment info or why Ken's Attorney didn't arrange this with the dealership (as I believe Ken mentioned his attorney was repping him). Btw, didn't Ken initially TRY to put a down payment for the car and the dealership wouldn't take even that? |
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03-28-2008, 08:07 PM | #1966 | |
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This will no doubt get wrapped up soon. And I hope that lessons are learned on both sides of the fence. If not, then that would be the real tragedy. |
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You said exactly what I heard at the dealership, but you used the correct verbiage. I am not a car salesmen and don't know the ins and outs. Thanks for clarifying .
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i'll be the word got out and the honest dealership (these 2 places show the contrast b/w both ends of the spectrum, and we as shoppers, especially for new/used cars should keep that in mind). the honest dealership prob got a few more references for sales that way. When i bought my used car last semest, i made it a POINT by putting out flyers telling the student body to avoid other dealerships (was gonna do an article "my student's guide to buying a car" sort a thing). there used to be a saying before the "suckers born every minute" (deny a sale to an educated potential buyer, to find an uninformed/impulsive buyer they can manipulate, turn, and victimize). The old saying used be something like, "make a good experience, ppl will tell 5.....but make a bad experience and they'll tell 500". |
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03-28-2008, 08:11 PM | #1969 | |
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So if the dealership is willing to work with Ken, what was the new corporate lawyer threatening libel and litigation for? Don't you think it appears inconsistent with the dealer version of the story? I am sure the dealerships are very good sponsors to your chapter so I understand your need to chip in with support for them. |
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Wow! Has it only been a week since this all started? It seems like an eternity!
I think what really made this situation worse were the responses by the dealer representatives/lawyers. If they had responded like Jeff (the President of the local car club), the matter would have been over, and the onus would have been on Dooma/Ken to pay for the car. With the tone of the letter from the second lawyer representing the dealer, it seems unlikely what Jeff/BMW M5 Power said will happen. Jeff obviously is NOT an unbiased individual. He apparently is quite close with all involved at the dealership. Just because you represent a local car club, does that somehow make you more truthful, believable? Not sure about the answer to that question... It is possible the car is trashed and the dealer knows that once inspected, they are in deep doo-doo. Thought I'd add another conspiracy theory into the mix. Will continue to follow with great interest...
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So what happened to the person/internet manager who posted the car on EBAY? Obviously the notion that they mistook the BUY IT NOW price as the reserve is complete horse manure with undigested pieces of corn in it. Can you explain why the dealeship would pull such a stunt of an auction in the first place? It was no accident. |
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I live in Lincoln I drive a BMW 335i leased from Husker just over a year ago A close friend of mine has one as well from Husker I have never met someone who had a good opinion of Husker. And I have had first hand experience as to why they are not a good dealer. As to your comments regarding husker tickets and bmwcca membership, that's all news to me. Neither me nor my friend received such treatment. Regardless, the reality is, Husker is a really bad BMW dealership, and everyone that lives around here knows it. |
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its probably a given, but i'm sure you and Scott will be cruising around town soon ! |
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Wow. I haven't been able to read all of the posts in this monster thread, but just wanted to chime in and give my best to Dooma. If you do set up a paypal account to cover your fees please post it as I'd love to contribute. I know you don't need the money, but it gives all of us a way to support you and if these jackasses try to sue you, you shouldn't be out of pocket to defend yourself.
Also, iirc, the main defense against libel is truth. I've read your posts and the posts from HAG and their counsel and I know who I'd believe. |
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just goes to show you BMW corporate. either they're oblivious to the situation (which i doubt), or they condone/encourage such behavior. either way, BMW took a MAJOR step down in my book. |
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What a great insight and thanks for sharing. I could take either side, but knowing that its the whole principle is what really matters. Husker Auto Group was a great place and it was a great place to work at.
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I just hope there is a happy ending by Monday, and nothing comes out of the woodwork to blindside Ken and/or Us.
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